Betfair Accounts being restricted, closed and suspended

[Euler]

I bought bet angel last week and have not used practice mode at all because of seeing another similar thread somewhere else on here. So I have been using real money bets from the off albeit predominantly with small £2 stakes. I hope this will protect me from this account restriction nonsense. Charging people £299 to unrestrict accounts is bordering on blackmail. I just don't know how they can get away with it. Is it worth contacting the gambling commission?

As long as you are not crazy and don't just run it in practice mode for six months on thousands of markets without placing a bet then you should be fine. Betfair just doesn't want you hammering their servers without any revenue.

[Euler]

Using real money is really the only way to test a system. You get very different results from data mining. Data mining can point you in a direction, but only using real money will you learn if it actually works.

[LeTiss]

Using real money is really the only way to test a system. You get very different results from data mining. Data mining can point you in a direction, but only using real money will you learn if it actually works.

Yeah, totally agree

I've said this before about practice mode, but as kids we're fearless. When learning to cycle, you have to take the stabilisers off at some stage. Sure, you're gonna fall off, you're gonna get some bruises, but it's the only way to learn how to balance and how to ride a bike

[Bluesky]

I've said this before about practice mode, but as kids we're fearless. When learning to cycle, you have to take the stabilisers off at some stage. Sure, you're gonna fall off, you're gonna get some bruises, but it's the only way to learn how to balance and how to ride a bike

Excellent analogy.

[welshboy06]

One glaring difference I've noticed between live and practice mode is... when asking for a price that has no available money to match. It sits there until someone comes in with some money to match it. However in live, the mere fact that I have my money sitting there, often makes someone jump up and take it.

This is more prominent when trying to take advantage of the gaps in prices

[Euler]

The best way to look at practice mode is to think of it as taking a penalty against a blindfolded goalie. He can't see what you are doing so can't react to it. When you use real money the goalie will see you and try and stop you scoring.

[Jukebox]

Ron-Robert Zieler was just unlucky.

[jimibt]

The best way to look at practice mode is to think of it as taking a penalty against a blindfolded goalie. He can't see what you are doing so can't react to it. When you use real money the goalie will see you and try and stop you scoring.

yup, my penalty kicks taking has always been suspect (keeper - blindfolded or not). maybe that's what i need to practice more - my penalties (lightbulb moment) lol.

[Euler]

Even if you kick at random, 50% will go in. Unless you are England then the psychology takes precedent over the actual kicking.

[jimibt]

Even if you kick at random, 50% will go in. Unless you are England then the psychology takes precedent over the actual kicking.

let's not even mention my national team!! oh flower of..... (shhhh)

[max_usted]

Even if you kick at random, 50% will go in. Unless you are England then the psychology takes precedent over the actual kicking.

let's not even mention my national team!! oh flower of..... (shhhh)

It'd be nice if we could ever get to the stage of a tournament at which penalty kicks become an option. We might be the best PK shoot-out team in the world, but we'll never find out sadly.

[jimibt]

Even if you kick at random, 50% will go in. Unless you are England then the psychology takes precedent over the actual kicking.

let's not even mention my national team!! oh flower of..... (shhhh)

It'd be nice if we could ever get to the stage of a tournament at which penalty kicks become an option. We might be the best PK shoot-out team in the world, but we'll never find out sadly.

max - one day!! . btw, saw you mention dumfries a few weeks back. located to just outside newton stewart from london (via glasgow) 15 yrs ago... lovliest part of the world imaginable.

[max_usted]

let's not even mention my national team!! oh flower of..... (shhhh)

It'd be nice if we could ever get to the stage of a tournament at which penalty kicks become an option. We might be the best PK shoot-out team in the world, but we'll never find out sadly.

max - one day!! . btw, saw you mention dumfries a few weeks back. located to just outside newton stewart from london (via glasgow) 15 yrs ago... lovliest part of the world imaginable.

Amazing round there!... and round D&G in general, especially at this time of year. Newton Stewart and then down towards Wigtown is beautiful, feels like the end of the world. I'm (off and on) based towards Kippford on the coast - so pretty nice also (but a bit more touristy).

[jimibt]

It'd be nice if we could ever get to the stage of a tournament at which penalty kicks become an option. We might be the best PK shoot-out team in the world, but we'll never find out sadly.

max - one day!! . btw, saw you mention dumfries a few weeks back. located to just outside newton stewart from london (via glasgow) 15 yrs ago... lovliest part of the world imaginable.

Amazing round there!... and round D&G in general, especially at this time of year. Newton Stewart and then down towards Wigtown is beautiful, feels like the end of the world. I'm (off and on) based towards Kippford on the coast - so pretty nice also (but a bit more touristy).

yeah, i was working remotely for ITV when we first moved up here. Took about 2 years before I lost the initial feeling every morning that I was actually on holiday . Reality well and truly embedded now. Kippford is lovely. In general, the left dogleg off the M74 is a well kept secret

[keldix]

Hello,
I received an email from Betfair today saying......

With regret, we have restricted your Betfair account with a delay to Exchange market data (odds and volumes). The restriction is in accordance with our Terms and Conditions; in particular the intellectual property clauses with reference to Betfair data. For further information, view our T&C’s at http://forum.betfair.com/aboutUs/Terms. ... -betting-1. The relevant terms are highlighted below.

Your data usage profile represents that of a commercial user. Note that usage of Betfair Exchange market data by any user in a commercial context requires a data licence. Betfair offers a commercial data licensing scheme, details of which can be found at https://developer.betfair.com/get-started/.

Should you wish to consume data for testing and or analysis, please use delayed data as applied to your account or the historical data services - https://apps.betfair.com/data/.

‘6. Cancellation, Termination, Suspension and Breach

We may restrict your access to Betfair, suspend or terminate your account, withdraw your offers for bets, void any bets outstanding to your account, cancel any unmatched bets or cancel and void any outstanding or matched bets in our absolute discretion without cause at any time including if:

v: ... your account’s ‘public market data’ usage (‘public market data’ includes market prices, traded Volumes and market depth) could represent ‘business usage’ (‘business usage’ includes any use by a betting operator or any use by an individual or organisation supplying data or services to a betting operator)’

Kind Regards

Betfair Limited | Winslow Road | Hammersmith Embankment | London | W6 9HP.


I have been trying out bots and trading in practice mode for a while now, whilst also going live now and again (losing money!)
Has anyone else had this email/problem?