Where Am I Specifically Going Wrong With This Please?

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JustLukeYou
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Derek27 wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:44 pm
You don't understand it Luke. It's not guessing, it's analysing what the position would be under various situations. It's like playing a game of chess, you're not guessing what move your opponent will play, you're looking at what possible moves he can play and what your options are. It's fool-hardy opening a trade without considering what you're position will be if a goal's scored, and how your position will move if a goal isn't.
What I mean is SoccerMystic cannot tell what will happen next but you know what will happen depending on whether you are laying or backing other you going under or over.

So do people use to set a specific target of a profit margin? For example, someone aims to get a 50% profit margin with 75% strike rate.

It's as if someone who can't drive knowing the exact number of miles by car to London. Surely it's being able to drive that is more important. If London is 150 miles or 250 miles it's a bit immaterial if you can't drive.
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JustLukeYou wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:51 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:44 pm
You don't understand it Luke. It's not guessing, it's analysing what the position would be under various situations. It's like playing a game of chess, you're not guessing what move your opponent will play, you're looking at what possible moves he can play and what your options are. It's fool-hardy opening a trade without considering what you're position will be if a goal's scored, and how your position will move if a goal isn't.
What I mean is SoccerMystic cannot tell what will happen next but you know what will happen depending on whether you are laying or backing other you going under or over.

So do people use to set a specific target of a profit margin? For example, someone aims to get a 50% profit margin with 75% strike rate.

It's as if someone who can't drive knowing the exact number of miles by car to London. Surely it's being able to drive that is more important. If London is 150 miles or 250 miles it's a bit immaterial if you can't drive.
I've already explained Luke, it's not designed to tell you what will happen next and it's not designed to set targets.
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Derek27 wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 9:03 pm
JustLukeYou wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:51 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:44 pm
You don't understand it Luke. It's not guessing, it's analysing what the position would be under various situations. It's like playing a game of chess, you're not guessing what move your opponent will play, you're looking at what possible moves he can play and what your options are. It's fool-hardy opening a trade without considering what you're position will be if a goal's scored, and how your position will move if a goal isn't.
What I mean is SoccerMystic cannot tell what will happen next but you know what will happen depending on whether you are laying or backing other you going under or over.

So do people use to set a specific target of a profit margin? For example, someone aims to get a 50% profit margin with 75% strike rate.

It's as if someone who can't drive knowing the exact number of miles by car to London. Surely it's being able to drive that is more important. If London is 150 miles or 250 miles it's a bit immaterial if you can't drive.
I've already explained Luke, it's not designed to tell you what will happen next and it's not designed to set targets.
Derek, do you use it if so how would you use with Sheffield Utd currently winning 1-0 against Arsenal.
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No, I don't use it as I'm not a football trader. But Dallas's post explains how it can be used quite clearly. What part of the post don't you understand?
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Derek27 wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 10:22 pm
No, I don't use it as I'm not a football trader. But Dallas's post explains how it can be used quite clearly. What part of the post don't you understand?
I think this explains a lot Derek. You don't contribute to this section positively or constructively because you are not interested in football trading.

It's as if you know how drill a hole in a wall but you hate doing it. Someone asks you how to drill a hole in a wall and you tell them how not do it but you could if you wanted to explain in 20 seconds how to drill a hole in wall.

But getting back to SoccerMystic and if someone could explain I would be very grateful. Does anyone use it religiously and it does make a positive difference to how you trade? Does it find hidden value?
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JustLukeYou wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 10:33 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 10:22 pm
No, I don't use it as I'm not a football trader. But Dallas's post explains how it can be used quite clearly. What part of the post don't you understand?
I think this explains a lot Derek. You don't contribute to this section positively or constructively because you are not interested in football trading.

It's as if you know how drill a hole in a wall but you hate doing it. Someone asks you how to drill a hole in a wall and you tell them how not do it but you could if you wanted to explain in 20 seconds how to drill a hole in wall.

But getting back to SoccerMystic and if someone could explain I would be very grateful. Does anyone use it religiously and it does make a positive difference to how you trade? Does it find hidden value?
You keep saying that, but like a five-year-old, you keep coming back to ask me more questions. Most of your questions are quite straight forward and does not require specialist knowledge.

As I've said, Dallas has gone to great length to explain it, and if you can't even say specifically what it is that you don't understand I don't think it's possible for anyone to help you.
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So with Soccer Mystic how would I use it for this trade I am planning?

I am convinced their will be at least one girl in first of Man City v Atalanta tomorrow night. How would I use SoccerMystic for this. The odds are currently 1.19. If they drift to 1.4 at 32 minutes I will decide to trade out?
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JustLukeYou wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 11:15 pm
So with Soccer Mystic how would I use it for this trade I am planning?

I am convinced their will be at least one girl [ :lol: ] in first of Man City v Atalanta tomorrow night. How would I use SoccerMystic for this. The odds are currently 1.19. If they drift to 1.4 at 32 minutes I will decide to trade out?
Have you actually downloaded Bet Angel and connected it with a Betfair account?
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Looks like it's past his bedtime. ;)
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Hi, can someone confirm something for me please. Let's the current lay odds are 1.5 but you want to take a position at 2.0. If the market is suspended at the market resettles at odds of 2.5 I take it your position of 2.0 is automatically accepted?
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That question is a new low Luke, you can easily test it yourself on just one market. Don't think there's a single person on this forum that doesn't know the answer to that. I'd like to reiterate that you are light years away from being profitable, if after everything you still don't know how to place basic bets on the exchange and get them matched.

I know for a fact that you're not deliberately trolling but I really wish you were.
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Kai wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 12:46 pm
That question is a new low Luke, you can easily test it yourself on just one market. Don't think there's a single person on this forum that doesn't know the answer to that. I'd like to reiterate that you are light years away from being profitable, if after everything you still don't know how to place basic bets on the exchange and get them matched.

I know for a fact that you're not deliberately trolling but I really wish you were.
Well I watched a video and he makes it sound like there is a magic trick to making low risk money from BetFair but there really isn't. If there wasn't a goal then he would lose all his liability bet be placed.
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Mugsy is a good trader but linking promotional videos from Bet Angel's direct competitors is a big no-no Luke. Maybe Dallas (the moderator) was right 5 threads ago, maybe best thing for you is to take a break from the forum and find some of those answers yourself. Surely can't expect for people to hold your hand all the way through, have to get your own hands dirty at some point.
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Kai wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 1:04 pm
Mugsy is a good trader but linking promotional videos from Bet Angel's direct competitors is a big no-no Luke. Maybe Dallas (the moderator) was right 5 threads ago, maybe best thing for you is to take a break from the forum and find some of those answers yourself. Surely can't expect for people to hold your hand all the way through, have to get your own hands dirty at some point.
The video seems very deceptive to me, that the point sorry. I don't want to get my hands dirty in a scam.

The risk is only £3.30 because a goal was scored. The real risk was £100.
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