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Euler
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I can sort of see where some of those sort of comments come from though. There are so many people pretending to be traders and pushing duff information so much that your average newbie could burn through a ton of systems and cash and never get anywhere. There are so few real traders offering advice now, I'd imagine most get drowned out by people who make a living selling 'advice' which doesn't have any real relevance. It seems people slap the trading label on anything now if it can earn them a few quid.
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I've met many people like the guy you quoted in my gambling days, who believed it's impossible to beat the bookies. The frustrating thing is that people talk complete bollocks about things they know absolutely nothing about, and yet they are 100% confident that they're right!
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LeTiss
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I understand the confusion. Not everyone will be successful at this, some people will lose money......lots of it. That causes anger and resentment, and a feeling they've been done

Since being on Twitter for the past 6 months, I've been contacted by many who claim to be trading experts. Within 30 seconds i realise they are anything, but experts

Therefore, people like PW just get tarnished by these muppets. Novice traders can't see the wood from the trees with social media experts, and just end up dismissing those who are genuine experts
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There might also be a more intelligently calculated method to their apparent madness. There could be a deliberate ploy of using extreme negativity to try to tempt/force you into 'giving away' some strategy that works.

If I proffered such negativity, that would be my sole reason for doing so.
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weemac wrote:
Sat Sep 01, 2018 12:17 pm
There might also be a more intelligently calculated method to their apparent madness. There could be a deliberate ploy of using extreme negativity to try to tempt/force you into 'giving away' some strategy that works.

If I proffered such negativity, that would be my sole reason for doing so.
That hadn't even crossed my mind..........my god you're a devious bastard weemac :D
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Allan R
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Anna List wrote:
Tue Mar 20, 2018 12:10 pm
50% of the people in this world have a below average IQ. I find that a scary thought.

There are some smart cookies on this forum. Out there, in the wider betting world, it's a different story. Go into any betting shop at random and listen to the jibber jabber that takes place. It's frightening. How on earth some of them manage to tie their shoe laces of a morning is beyond me. It therefore comes as a shock that some of them even learn to read and write and find their way on to social media.

We live in a democracy. We wouldn't like our freedom of speech to be curtailed and therefore, we have no right to curtail the freedom of others, regardless of how much we may dislike and/or reject hearing the thoughts of others. Someone once said, I may not agree with what you say but I will defend your right to say it.

Bookmakers, to a great extent, have become expert in the exploitation of human weaknesses in order to acquire wealth. On the one hand, we are all responsible for our own well-being. On the other, it would not be a caring society that ignores the weak and less fortunate.

There are people in this life who see gambling as some kind of ill that afflicts society and takes advantage of the vulnerable. Maybe the social media poster is of this ilk, maybe not. Maybe the poster sees you, Peter, as being a part of this ill, maybe not. Right now, you don't know the nature of his angst or why.

You could ignore him, of course, but this could be seen by many as an admission that the poster is correct.on't forget that 50% of those on social media are as thick as trees. Ignoring him could also inflame the situation. Some people take umbrage at being ignored.

In your position, I would ask him for proof of his claims. If he takes a hike, he will be seen as holding fresh air. If he responds, you might then be in a better position to defend. Someone once said, if you intend to retaliate, first know thine enemy.

There again, I'm not you and I'm not in your position.

Hope this helps.
"50% of the people in this world have a below average IQ. I find that a scary thought."

We used to live in caves and rub sticks together to make fire..We have come a long way...Dont be scared.. :roll:

"Go into any betting shop at random and listen to the jibber jabber that takes place. It's frightening."

Why would anyone do this?..The words you use in this post, would suggest you dont spend much time in the bookies.
How frightening is it?? :roll:

"How on earth some of them manage to tie their shoe laces of a morning is beyond me. It therefore comes as a shock that some of them even learn to read and write and find their way on to social media."

Not everybody has the same opportunities in life, leading to them having less knowledge than others..
Someone with a low "IQ" could be a great football player or a great artist...or even a great trader :D

"it would not be a caring society that ignores the weak and less fortunate"

See above comments??. :lol:

"You could ignore him, of course, but this could be seen by many as an admission that the poster is correct."

I could not disagree more..A comment from a guy with no name..Against Peter Webb!..The guy lost the moment he had the idea :lol: ..And the trading community know this.

This is all, just my opinion..i have no proof of claims :shock:
Just one last thing.....UMBRAGE...WT.. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Allan R wrote:
Sun Sep 02, 2018 12:43 pm
Anna List wrote:
Tue Mar 20, 2018 12:10 pm
50% of the people in this world have a below average IQ. I find that a scary thought.

There are some smart cookies on this forum. Out there, in the wider betting world, it's a different story. Go into any betting shop at random and listen to the jibber jabber that takes place. It's frightening. How on earth some of them manage to tie their shoe laces of a morning is beyond me. It therefore comes as a shock that some of them even learn to read and write and find their way on to social media.

We live in a democracy. We wouldn't like our freedom of speech to be curtailed and therefore, we have no right to curtail the freedom of others, regardless of how much we may dislike and/or reject hearing the thoughts of others. Someone once said, I may not agree with what you say but I will defend your right to say it.

Bookmakers, to a great extent, have become expert in the exploitation of human weaknesses in order to acquire wealth. On the one hand, we are all responsible for our own well-being. On the other, it would not be a caring society that ignores the weak and less fortunate.

There are people in this life who see gambling as some kind of ill that afflicts society and takes advantage of the vulnerable. Maybe the social media poster is of this ilk, maybe not. Maybe the poster sees you, Peter, as being a part of this ill, maybe not. Right now, you don't know the nature of his angst or why.

You could ignore him, of course, but this could be seen by many as an admission that the poster is correct.on't forget that 50% of those on social media are as thick as trees. Ignoring him could also inflame the situation. Some people take umbrage at being ignored.

In your position, I would ask him for proof of his claims. If he takes a hike, he will be seen as holding fresh air. If he responds, you might then be in a better position to defend. Someone once said, if you intend to retaliate, first know thine enemy.

There again, I'm not you and I'm not in your position.

Hope this helps.
"50% of the people in this world have a below average IQ. I find that a scary thought."

We used to live in caves and rub sticks together to make fire..We have come a long way...Dont be scared.. :roll:

"Go into any betting shop at random and listen to the jibber jabber that takes place. It's frightening."

Why would anyone do this?..The words you use in this post, would suggest you dont spend much time in the bookies.
How frightening is it?? :roll:

"How on earth some of them manage to tie their shoe laces of a morning is beyond me. It therefore comes as a shock that some of them even learn to read and write and find their way on to social media."

Not everybody has the same opportunities in life, leading to them having less knowledge than others..
Someone with a low "IQ" could be a great football player or a great artist...or even a great trader :D

"it would not be a caring society that ignores the weak and less fortunate"

See above comments??. :lol:

"You could ignore him, of course, but this could be seen by many as an admission that the poster is correct."

I could not disagree more..A comment from a guy with no name..Against Peter Webb!..The guy lost the moment he had the idea :lol: ..And the trading community know this.

This is all, just my opinion..i have no proof of claims :shock:
Just one last thing.....UMBRAGE...WT.. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Off subject but I once did the Great North run and came in about 18000th out of 38000 runners and was moaning to my friend saying eighteen thousand runners have beaten me and he replied immediately that I had also beaten twenty thousand other runners which made me feel better .....
JTEDL
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I see a certain 3 'pro traders' got a bit of grief on twitter yesterday when they announced an 'Exclusive Pro Trader Event sponsored by Betfair' ;)
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Billed as 'trading is set to change forever' and then they come up with that :P
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LeTiss
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JTEDL wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:31 am
I see a certain 3 'pro traders' got a bit of grief on twitter yesterday when they announced an 'Exclusive Pro Trader Event sponsored by Betfair' ;)
I have 3 differing opinions on those guys -

Mark Iverson is worth listening to. He has tremendous knowledge on trading cricket, and retains humility in his approach to other traders. A knowledgeable, classy guy

Steve Howe, I went off. He was a tremendously entertaining guy in the early days of being Mugs, and was always full of great advice. However, he then started to suck his own dick and considered himself the new Peter Webb, offering videos and courses in that drab Brummy accent. No thanks

Caan Berry is simply a full on bellend
JTEDL
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LOL, you don't mince your words!

Had to laugh at few of the comments they got, one suggesting was just an excuse for a p*ss up, which must admit does look like will be the main event....
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LeTiss wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:50 am
Caan Berry is simply a full on bellend
I wish people would say what they actually meant ;) :lol:
Emmson
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Must grate when the master is being constantly undercut by the pupil.
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LeTiss wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:50 am
JTEDL wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:31 am
I see a certain 3 'pro traders' got a bit of grief on twitter yesterday when they announced an 'Exclusive Pro Trader Event sponsored by Betfair' ;)
Steve Howe, I went off. He was a tremendously entertaining guy in the early days of being Mugs, and was always full of great advice. However, he then started to suck his own dick and considered himself the new Peter Webb, offering videos and courses in that drab Brummy accent. No thanks
oh god he's not had the temerity to go out and try to help people has he?! I haven't done the PW course, but from everyone I've spoken to it's usually a 'meh'. Mugs gives a proven understanding of how to extract profit from the market on a consistent basis. Can people from the PW course say the same?

And what has his accent got to do with it, incredibly snobby comment, get a grip.
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Euler
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I don't want the forum to be a place to stick it to others, but I'm pretty sure most people are unaware of some of the history.

So to contradict that last statement...

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