Position in Queue and Last Trade

[kelpie]

I am happy to speak to Betfair about it at the appropriate time. I'd also like to bring the wider community into it.

I suppose it's always good to talk

but honestly, betfair will just lie. There's no way a listed company will fess up to abusing their customer base

The best way is to challenge betfair to explain their accounts line items and especially p&L spikes. They will still try to lie but will be aware the FSA get involved with public deceptions about accounts

A quick peak on their 2013 accounts and I think betfair have already "admitted" they trade against their customers, and report the profits on their sportsbook line

http://corporate.betfair.com/investor-r ... /2013.aspx

"to reflect the risk we are taking, we build a margin into our Sportsbook odds and apply other risk management techniques. Over time, we expect these margins to allow us to generate revenue."

So remind me again how you transfer risk while making a profit? Yup, obvious innit, shit rolls downwards...

Sportsbook is showing a +33% year-on-year profit in 2013.

[pmanso]

We are drifting from the starting issue, PIQ. If other apps can calculate this in a very accurate way I'm forced to believe that it's possible to do this and that BA can do it also. It would be great to have an extra column in the ladder with this information, it could even be a column that you could turn on/off according to your trader needs. What do you say traders?

[to75ne]

leave the ladders alone. i would hate to see any space taken from or extra added to the ladders for the sake of at best an unrelaibale/dubious indicator.

[Consty1]

I'd personally find position in the queue an amazing feature, especially for trading pre match football.

[Online Trader]

I am for having it if possible as Mark says for pre match trading on football it would be very useful.

[marko236]

Maybe have two ladders one with postion in queue and one without?

[AmazingMisterX]

Maybe PIQ could be added in the next beta version of a Bet Angel update so we could give it a go. Based on everyone's feedback, Peter could decide to stick with it in a new version or not. I was very impressed with how he listened to users, including me, on the last update.

[LinusP]

I can't believe 'last trade' hasn't been implemented yet, a lot of users use other software because it has this capability along with PIQ.

[pmanso]

Some guys didn't read my post in which I say:

"It would be great to have an extra column in the ladder with this information, it could even be a column that you could turn on/off according to your trader needs."

Meaning that only people who find this feature great would have this extra column.

[6thSense]

Please see the new beta here that has implemented some of the suggestions raised:

viewtopic.php?f=29&t=9180

[bigdaz]

hi, just putting my two penneth in the mix..i have just come across from geeks toy software, and although i believe BA to be head and shoulders a more superior product, i do, however find myself missing the APPROX queue position feature. i also believe other software have implimented a similar feature. although its not totally 100% accurate, it does tell you within 50 quid were you are in the queue. it is a very very usefull feature, and it was this feature alone that i nearly didnt jump ship and come across to BA...glad i did though.

[Euler]

We are happy to put it in a new build, but it will be defaulted to off as we are very sceptical on its use. But if people want it then it's not really a problem.

It's going to get even harder to rely on shortly, see the blog post: -

http://www.betangel.com/blog_wp/2014/10 ... ll-soccer/

[pmanso]

Guys from Betangel,

When will you insert the PIQ function?
Another thing that would be very useful with be a new sound that you could activated on the sounds area, this sound would play every time money that is on queue is matched.
With this 2 new features i would no longer have the need to have to applications open at the same time, Betangel and another one that has these 2 features.

Best regards,
Pedro

[andyfuller]

Another thing that would be very useful with be a new sound that you could activated on the sounds area, this sound would play every time money that is on queue is matched.

I wouldn't like it if it were every time money were matched in the queue as it would be forever going off but it would be useful if it could be set to go off when some of your own money was matched. This is a feature I miss from other software when using Bet Angel.

For example you have money on a ladder no longer visible and so you have to keep checking if it is matched at all, a sound alert would tell you it have been matched.

[Euler]

You can do that via automation.