BITCOIN as an alternative to regular currency

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Orixian
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Euler wrote:
Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:15 pm
Everybody thinks they can get away with trading a bubble because they will get out in time. But nobody really knows when it will pop and when they try to sell nobody wants to buy and that;s why the decline is so precipitous, no buyers.
Id be willing to speculate that in this case the "mass awareness" that will drive the bubble to a new frenzy has yet to occur. Infact betting on this by buying alt coins is, in my opinion, the only prfoitable play left as everything seems incredibly overvalued now so im not certain that utility counts for anything.
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Dallas wrote:
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Euler wrote:
Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:05 pm
Good documentary: -

https://www.netflix.com/title/80154500
Thanks for that, it was a interesting watch especially from the history perspective of how its got to were it now is
Best documentary out there. I liked the fact it didn't shy away from the negatives of bitcoin but also explained the genuinely positive things many of us hope blockchain technology could lead too. Id still recomend videos by Andreas Antonopoulos for more depth on the subject.
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Cryptos off between 10-20%, on news China bank is prohibiting raising of capital, for new coins.

Will be interesting to see if its just the start of a major sell-off, or, an opportunity to buy the dip.

V tricky, and the more youtube videos I watch, the more confused I seem to become.

Happy to be on the sidelines.
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"Jaime Dimon, would fire 'in a second' anyone at the investment bank found to be trading in bitcoin. 'For two reasons: it’s against our rules, and they’re stupid. And both are dangerous.'”

Lol sure Dimon! If I'm a trader at JPMorgan, & I know my boss is about to hammer it publicly, the R:R is too good not to short it!
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so bitcoin is currently taking a beating because the Chinese government is putting its foot down. The question everyone should be asking is why now?
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workpeter wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2017 6:33 pm
so bitcoin is currently taking a beating because the Chinese government is putting its foot down. The question everyone should be asking is why now?
They've been firing warning shots for some time now. As typical as it is of the way China goes about things, in this instance it actually seems they tried to avoid a hard landing to prevent all the mom and pop investors who are naively taking part in getting hurt. But it's likely that the craze has reached heights beyond tolerance thresholds and this is the point they deemed necessary to step in before every Tong, Dong and Hong piles their nest egg into this volatile beast.

The U.S probably want to do the same but likely coming up short with an obvious optimal solution
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Its a fair point, i read somewhere that something like 90% of bitcoin is traded by Chinese?
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workpeter wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:51 pm
Its a fair point, i read somewhere that something like 90% of bitcoin is traded by Chinese?
Yeah it was close to those levels about two years ago. Since then, South Korea and Japan have become major players. These days China account for approx 20% of global BTC mining & trading.
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Massive buying opportunity if you can call the floor on this. Absolutely nothing has changed with the fundamental technology. Also I suspect in the long run the decentralised exchanges that are currently being developed will bypass all the regulations China is passing as no single group owns them so can't be pressured by the government. Question now is when to buy, whats the level if you remove the Chinese hype traders from the market and your left with just those who believe in the technology?
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$3000 was a pretty key support level, and it broke thru, to $2960, and has retraced, to $3300.

Its as volatile an 'asset class', as there probably is out there.

I would be tempted to buy at $1000 - but, not at current prices - which, could be an epic mistake, but, the fundamental question, of how to empirically value crypto currencies, still remains + u now have some respected business leaders, saying its a crock of shit.

At least IG have reduced bid/ask spread to 10 pips, now its in the $3300 area.
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megarain wrote:
Fri Sep 15, 2017 1:47 pm
$3000 was a pretty key support level, and it broke thru, to $2960, and has retraced, to $3300.

Its as volatile an 'asset class', as there probably is out there.

I would be tempted to buy at $1000 - but, not at current prices - which, could be an epic mistake, but, the fundamental question, of how to empirically value crypto currencies, still remains + u now have some respected business leaders, saying its a crock of shit.

At least IG have reduced bid/ask spread to 10 pips, now its in the $3300 area.
Jamie Dimon is not respected when it comes to bitcoin. As leader of a large bank he has every interest in seeing a wealth transfer mechanism outside the global banking system fail as it would take business from them. I'm not certain I'm going to let the head of a bank that has paid out over $20 billion in fines since 2008 tell me what is and isn't fraud either. Ill be in again at 2k and Ill be headed straight for my wish list of alt coins.
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