Can I Place a Betfair SP Bet?

[MattC76]

I am completely with you on this firlandsfarm. All my betting (on horses) is at betfair SP, and all my betting is automated via an Excel spreadsheet. There is NO simple way to take a straight forward SP bet, and as you say, NO way to set odds limits like you can on the main betfair site. My workaround is to trigger the BACK or LAY command at 10 seconds before the official start time when it looks like the SP will be in my acceptable range, but request ridiculous odds that I know will be unmatched (1000 for a BACK or 1.01 for a LAY). Then at time zero set a global TAKE SP ALL command for those unmatched bets. It's a bit of a rubbishy workaround but works 95% of the time but occasionally the start time of the race is delayed and the odds will drift and the SP will end up being out of my range but by then it's too late.

There needs to be some sort of command like:

BACK_SP [minimum odds]
LAY_SP [maximum odds]

Please implement this betangel developers!! Apart from this the software is superb and my betting is automated perfectly!

[liero1]

There needs to be some sort of command like:

BACK_SP [minimum odds]
LAY_SP [maximum odds]

Please implement this betangel developers!! Apart from this the software is superb and my betting is automated perfectly!

push push - This would really be good to have.. Having the same problem (now, in 2019 )

[Doodle Bob]

Is there a way to do this in 2020?

[firlandsfarm]

Is there a way to do this in 2020?

I'm not aware of it Bob. I do find it surprising that there seems to be a reluctance in BA to provide this very simple facility. I find using the Take SP option doesn't always get 'taken' and/or if it does then a lay stake gets adjusted for any variance in odds so as to keep the same liability. Also (and I may be wrong in this) I feel that Bf gives priority to directly placed BSP bets over those switched to 'take BSP' at the off. Come on BA, it can't be that difficult can it?

[marketraisen]

So I googled this expecting forum discussion and a quick way to find a thread on it.

I wasnt expecting it to just not be a part of BA at all lol.

Is there really no appetite from users for setting the SP odds limit, as has been available on the betfair website for a very long time?

[Anbell]

So I googled this expecting forum discussion and a quick way to find a thread on it.

I wasnt expecting it to just not be a part of BA at all lol.

Is there really no appetite from users for setting the SP odds limit, as has been available on the betfair website for a very long time?

There's a lot of appetite.

[weemac]

If this does get implemented, maximum and minimum odds should be able to be set against both backs and lays.

[sionascaig]

+1

[megarain]

+2

[Atho55]

+1

[firlandsfarm]

Thanks for the sudden rush of support for this guys … come on BA as I've said before is it really that difficult to simply align with a Bf facility that's been around for over 10 years!

[ShaunWhite]

If this does get implemented, maximum and minimum odds should be able to be set against both backs and lays.

You can only set one limit on SP bets and it works as lower limit for backs and upper limit for lays. Plus with SP bets you can't cancel them, and you can only amend your limit price in one direction so that you can't effectively cancel them. They're not quite as straightforward to implement as it seems at first.

[weemac]

Yes, I posted as much on the other new SP thread. I'd sometimes like to back at SP if the price isn't too high, but it isn't do-able.

[firlandsfarm]

You can only set one limit on SP bets and it works as lower limit for backs and upper limit for lays. Plus with SP bets you can't cancel them, and you can only amend your limit price in one direction so that you can't effectively cancel them. They're not quite as straightforward to implement as it seems at first.

I agree with your correction re limits Shaun but assuming the API allows access to setting a BSP bet (and from my use of another BOT it does) it would be as straightforward as setting a BSP bet in the website. The odds limits are optional. Many people bet to BSP. I have systems that work around BSP so for purity of research I want to bet to BSP. Cancellation is not really a problem, they are as cancellable as a matched bet or just leave placing until a few seconds before the Off.

[jimibt]

I was going to post a new topic on the suggestions area re this but thought it worth necro-posting here as there's a lot of discussion to clarify exactly why Limit SP is a great idea.

I may be wrong, but the Take SP Unmatched Bets on Selection (Price Dependent) appears to Take SP based on the current price being close to BSP, rather than using the betfair Limit SP functionality - I may be wrong tho!!

So, would like to add support to this idea as a feature enhancement on BA. and btw -thanks for the new 1.56 beta, excellent bunch of new features!!