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Derek27 wrote:
Sun Apr 28, 2019 6:39 pm
Don't use those flipping patronising my documents, my pictures, my videos folders (what idiot buys a mixture of tinned and frozen food and puts it all in his 'my shopping' cupboard???). Keep all your data on a separate volume ...
Couldn't agree more Derek, can't stand when Microsoft (and others) think they know more than I how I want to structure things. Luckily I have a two disk laptop so I have a three disk system, one for System and Apps (backed up monthly to the VPS), one for all data and the third is an external drive synchronised and RAID1 partnered to the data disk.
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firlandsfarm wrote:
Wed May 01, 2019 5:58 am
Derek27 wrote:
Sun Apr 28, 2019 6:39 pm
Don't use those flipping patronising my documents, my pictures, my videos folders (what idiot buys a mixture of tinned and frozen food and puts it all in his 'my shopping' cupboard???). Keep all your data on a separate volume ...
Couldn't agree more Derek, can't stand when Microsoft (and others) think they know more than I how I want to structure things. Luckily I have a two disk laptop so I have a three disk system, one for System and Apps (backed up monthly to the VPS), one for all data and the third is an external drive synchronised and RAID1 partnered to the data disk.
It stems back to the 1980s when you needed to have some technical expertise to understand and remember all the DOS commands you type in. Then when GUIs came out many people in offices would have struggled to adjust and Microsoft needed to help them organise a computer. 30 years on, with everybody using a computer and many, many people learning programming languages you would think Microsoft would realise we're not all complete idiots.
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Derek27 wrote:
Wed May 01, 2019 1:33 pm
......you would think Microsoft would realise we're not all complete idiots.
Yes we are. We pay them hundreds of dollars every few years for another version of the same product we already have and are perfectly happy with.
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weemac wrote:
Wed May 01, 2019 2:12 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Wed May 01, 2019 1:33 pm
......you would think Microsoft would realise we're not all complete idiots.
Yes we are. We pay them hundreds of dollars every few years for another version of the same product we already have and are perfectly happy with.
I don't, I upgraded to Windows 10 while it was free. But as the idea was to use millions of home users as guinea pigs to test their software maybe that makes me an idiot. ;)
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weemac wrote:
Wed May 01, 2019 2:12 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Wed May 01, 2019 1:33 pm
......you would think Microsoft would realise we're not all complete idiots.
Yes we are. We pay them hundreds of dollars every few years for another version of the same product we already have and are perfectly happy with.
I always buy key only. Windows is usually about £12 and my office pro plus 2019 (non subscriber version so it's mine) was about £40 I think, retail price if you can find it is about $440. All legit and properly registered with MS.

Incidentally after office 2019 it will be office 365 subscription only. If you want a version of office that you don't pay for again and again every year it's a good time to snag a copy.
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ShaunWhite wrote:
Wed May 01, 2019 5:43 pm
I always buy key only. Windows is usually about £12 and my office pro plus 2019 (non subscriber version so it's mine) was about £40
I've never (directly) bought an OS, either came preloaded (new or used machines) or like Derek Win10 upgrade while free but I'm helping someone abroad (Kenya) buy one and they have lots with "WindowsTrial (90 days)" preloaded on their machines. I'm assuming that's a trial version of Win10 that expires after 90 days when you have to 'acquire' a Key to keep using it (and the computer retailer gets a cut/commission of the cost!). Is that the sort of thing you are referring to Shaun? I've often wondered if you can just buy a Key off eBay (assuming it's valid and not a multi-used pirated Key).
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firlandsfarm wrote:
Thu May 02, 2019 7:52 am
ShaunWhite wrote:
Wed May 01, 2019 5:43 pm
I always buy key only. Windows is usually about £12 and my office pro plus 2019 (non subscriber version so it's mine) was about £40
I've never (directly) bought an OS, either came preloaded (new or used machines) or like Derek Win10 upgrade while free but I'm helping someone abroad (Kenya) buy one and they have lots with "WindowsTrial (90 days)" preloaded on their machines. I'm assuming that's a trial version of Win10 that expires after 90 days when you have to 'acquire' a Key to keep using it (and the computer retailer gets a cut/commission of the cost!). Is that the sort of thing you are referring to Shaun? I've often wondered if you can just buy a Key off eBay (assuming it's valid and not a multi-used pirated Key).
I've always used a couple of reputable re-sellers (NOT ebay). There's probably some fly-by-night cowboys but that's not always the case.
I'm NOT making a recommendation I'd want to be responsible for but softwaregeeks (couk) have been around for years and have a feedback score of 4.6 from 4300 reviews. (negs mostly from peole who don't know how to install software and register it) They're also one of the few that say if you have trouble registering it then you should contact MS because they know what they're doing. (Very occassioanlly MS haven't reset the licence as being free after the machine has been decommissioned).

Touch wood they've been flawless....I've probably used them for about 4 years. The first time I wasn't confident but thought it was worth having a try and if it was a rip off then so be it. Turned out to be fine and it's saved 100s over the years. I'm sure there's other sites doing it and I find the sniff test works pretty well for most things.

btw my office pro plus didn't register properly via the software, I contacted MS via their automated registration line and it went through absolutely fine. That gave me a lot of confidence about the whole process as being legitimate.

btw2: prices seem to vary a lot because supply/demand is a bit volatile.
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ShaunWhite wrote:
Wed May 01, 2019 5:43 pm
I always buy key only. Windows is usually about £12 and my office pro plus 2019 (non subscriber version so it's mine) was about £40 I think, retail price if you can find it is about $440. All legit and properly registered with MS.
Jeez - why did I not know this !

Thanks Shaun :D
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Perhaps the Google algorithms have me down as a bit of a skin flint... or broke. They just came up when I was looking for the price of Office one day.

I must say again though that although I've always had positive experiences and I have no reason to believe they aren't legit, there's probably some dodgy resellers out there. People should use the usual due diligence when handing over their money. I was swayed by the physical adresss on the contact info, a quick search on companies house, and a larger number of positive reviews than most ify companies bother to write themselves. The web site was better than most of the thrown together template jobs too. It seemed like a value bet.
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ShaunWhite wrote:
Thu May 02, 2019 4:59 pm
I've always used a couple of reputable re-sellers (NOT ebay). There's probably some fly-by-night cowboys but that's not always the case.
I'm NOT making a recommendation
Being out of town I use eBay a lot and except for the very very early period I have never had a problem with any sellers. I think the eBay back-up guarantee has a lot to do with it because if eBay have to bail the seller out they will chase after them to be refunded and that probably puts many of the FbN's off. And I never take anything on a forum as a recommendation, I look upon such help as just a pointer for further research. :)

I use the 365 subscription service as it gives me 5 installs to help with my travelling and keeps them all up to date with the latest version. I think I pay around £7pm to Tesco.
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firlandsfarm wrote:
Fri May 03, 2019 11:31 am
I use the 365 subscription service as it gives me 5 installs to help with my travelling and keeps them all up to date with the latest version.
Is it possible to pay extra to not have the latest version? :)
But being serious it's the lack of forced updates that makes the lifetime license the preferred option for me.
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ShaunWhite wrote:
Fri May 03, 2019 12:50 pm
firlandsfarm wrote:
Fri May 03, 2019 11:31 am
I use the 365 subscription service as it gives me 5 installs to help with my travelling and keeps them all up to date with the latest version.
Is it possible to pay extra to not have the latest version? :)
But being serious it's the lack of forced updates that makes the lifetime license the preferred option for me.
I pay Microsoft directly, £5.99 a month for Office 365 but I'm not sure how many installs I can have. If it's just one I will have to upgrade as I'll need to stall on my backup computer.

Office 365 doesn't have forced updates. It's switched on by default but you can switch it off on the options page.
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Derek27 wrote:
Fri May 03, 2019 1:19 pm
I pay Microsoft directly, £5.99 a month for Office 365 but I'm not sure how many installs I can have. If it's just one I will have to upgrade as I'll need to stall on my backup computer.
Sounds like you may have the "Personal" licence Derek, only allows one install. It's the "Home" licence that allows 5 installs for £7.99pm and if you use a VPS you can use one of your installs there :)
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My 365 must have updated today as it appears I now have different desktop and taskbar icons
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