New beta version of Bet Angel v1.50.1 - Now on general release

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jimibt wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:16 am
mcgoo wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:10 am
Thought I might move this to a separate reply

mmm maybe my tired brain but can't see a way to track a %change (runner % of market volume) of a runner-the stored values look like they record absolute volumes-one can see the % volume of a runner on the ladder if you choose selection volume to view on the ladder via settings. As mentioned in previous threads it would be great to be able to track this % change.Stored values would be a great way to do it

Thanks
actually, an interesting addition to the Value B comparison would be book%. i much prefer to think about book% value, rather than LTP as this has less relativity imho than knowing that the book% is increasing or decreasing over timespans.. worthy of an addition i think..
Thanks for the reply Dallas.I have posted on that thread. jimibt appears to have worded it better than me.cheers
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Thx for update to software.

Am on hols, so havent really tried any of the features yet .. but looking fwd to using stored values.
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Stored values!!!!!! Woo hooo! !!!!!
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"'high' & 'low' values from Market Overview are now available in Excel as additional values",

could anyone care to explain these high & low values?, & how they're useful, I've looked through the Bet Angel user manual & unable to find anything?, pm me if needs be as really would like to know
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They are the highest and lowest prices that a selection has traded. The values also have a filter applied which aims to remove the small volume price spikes that occur when a market is first formed.
As price highs and lows create resistance and support points in the market, people use these values to spot potential reversal & breakout opportunities.
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Bet Angel wrote:
Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:39 am
They are the highest and lowest prices that a selection has traded. The values also have a filter applied which aims to remove the small volume price spikes that occur when a market is first formed.
As price highs and lows create resistance and support points in the market, people use these values to spot potential reversal & breakout opportunities.
sorry, thought you mean't on the Overview Chart, not on the columns
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I havent downloaded and installed the beta yet - but I am tempted. I assume its a beta as you potentially expect a few bugs to surface.

Questions:
(1) If I install the beta, will it run alongside v1.49 or will it wipe and replace v1.49?
(2) Is it possible to set the Stored Values from excel? If not then I'd suggest it for a future release.
(3) Have any bugs cropped up yet?

I dont currently use BAF files mainly because as a programmer myself I found the signals and logic options too limiting and simplistic. I am obviously aware that others have used BAF scripts to very great effect though so obviously they have been doing a great job for some users.

If I could automate the setting of stored values via complex logic external to BAF scripts themselves and feed back via existing BA excel interface then it might make BAF scripts a more viable option for me personally. There are big advantages to BAF scripts over say excel VBA code in say speed of execution so BAF scripts are an attractive option. Basically I want do some complex number crunching outside of the BAF scripts and then feed the externally computed values into stored values to control the range where the BAF scripts triggers the simple back and lay actions.
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a question on the asians now you get some strange prices you dont get normally is it because of the way the half goals are handled?
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Simonlofc wrote:
Sat Apr 21, 2018 7:33 pm
a question on the asians now you get some strange prices you dont get normally is it because of the way the half goals are handled?
If you're talking about increments of 0.01 even above 2.00, that was the case before BF change the display of handicaps and before this update.

Can't see any reason why there'd need to be smaller increments would have anything to do with half goals. Should make no difference in that regard. Then again, I cannot see any reason, why they ever were made different in this market. My buest, unqualified, guess would be that some A-level bot trader requested it off BF, because it makes it easier to vacuum value when the big asian bookies move the price. It was probably Luca :shock:
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Just trying this out now. The Hi Low values in excel seem slightly slow updating at times, even in well formed markets.. could this be a result of the measures in place to filter price spikes? Or is it due to the order/timings of how this extra data is updated?

For example, It often has a higher price in the Last Traded Price column, to the one in the new High column, and same effect for Low..
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Already light years ahead of the rest ..you have improved on a perfect program...great work.
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Wolf1877 wrote:
Fri Apr 20, 2018 7:57 pm
I assume its a beta as you potentially expect a few bugs to surface.
Our builds are well tested before beta release, but yes occasionally a couple of bugs are found during beta testing.
Wolf1877 wrote:
Fri Apr 20, 2018 7:57 pm
(1) If I install the beta, will it run alongside v1.49 or will it wipe and replace v1.49?
By default it would replace v1.49, but you could tell it to install to a different Program Files folder. It also uses a folder in the Users\AppData\Roaming area of Windows for saved settings/layouts/automationRules, but if you give all new saves a new name they won't overwrite existing saves.
Wolf1877 wrote:
Fri Apr 20, 2018 7:57 pm
(2) Is it possible to set the Stored Values from excel? If not then I'd suggest it for a future release.
The application to Excel communications are very slow compared to normal Automation processing, so if this was to be implemented, it would be have to be fairly restricted (probably only sync values during a Guardian refresh of an Excel page).
Wolf1877 wrote:
Fri Apr 20, 2018 7:57 pm
(3) Have any bugs cropped up yet?
Not so far
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Nero Tulip wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:24 pm
Just trying this out now. The Hi Low values in excel seem slightly slow updating at times, even in well formed markets.. could this be a result of the measures in place to filter price spikes? Or is it due to the order/timings of how this extra data is updated?
For example, It often has a higher price in the Last Traded Price column, to the one in the new High column, and same effect for Low..
The additional columns in Excel (including the high low values) are updated in the same cycle as the price updates, so visually you shouldn't notice a lag. If you were reacting to a cell change in prices and taking a snapshot of the info, then perhaps you'd grab the information before the high/low has updated.
As you suggested, the most likely answer is that the price hasn't traded enough to satisfy the price spike filter. If you open the Market Overview grid, you should see the Excel high/low values match the High/Low traded prices in the overview grid, but if it isn't we'll investigate further.
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In the one click screen it seems like previous versions showed the "What if"(when unticked) for trading out ALL open positions together. It now seems like you might be able now to set up custom columns to "Whatif you closed each open position individually". ie Have as much custom columns as there are open positions or for every runner awaiting an open position( a bet).Is that possible? If thats correct then its another fantastic addition but the Jewel in the Crown has to be the saved values addition.
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I like how you can now change the font size on the one-click screen.

Ideal for rapidly ageing traders ;)
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