Farcical!!! - Manipulation of Betfair odds

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hgodden
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Bet Angel wrote:Quiet week for this guy so far, curious isn't it?
Maybe they were looking for new investors ;)
Exacta
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:lol:
Ica73
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Hi all,

Usually I gain 700-800 euro per day but from 25 agoust i have made:

25/8 +21
26/8 -220
27/8 -180

All what I touch became shit... The market is changed completly in this week...
this is only for me or for all? I trade on all horses (not only fav)

thx
Jam
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Hi Ica73,

I agree that the markets were different this week I normally earn 10% to 15% a day on my bank but last week I only made 19%. I found the spikes in the week before a lot easier to deal with.
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Don't post much on this thread now as it is so common, but this one caught my eye. Yes it was a group race, but it was at Dundalk?!?! On this occasion I just worked around him and used the flat line on this horse to my benefit on others and it worked well.
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This guy is all over the markets like a rash today.
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SpikeyBob
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Yep, I had a nightmare the first few races, got caught out on every one and then had to fight my way back all afternoon. Quite a contrast to yesterday.
PeterLe
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Is there any pattern to the Dates and/or Courses??
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Peter
mulberryhawk
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Is there any chance this activity in the market has something to do with the high roller service betfair offer.

It looks to me like someone is making a market to offload large ammounts whilst not ruining the price in the process.
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Could be, not a bad theory. This tactic is ruining the markets again today, I just can't get enough turns through.
Exacta
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PeterLe wrote:Is there any pattern to the Dates and/or Courses??
Regards
Peter
Seems to come and go but no pattern.
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oddstrader
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Bet Angel wrote:Could be, not a bad theory. This tactic is ruining the markets again today, I just can't get enough turns through.
not a bad take on it - could be!
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I recorded some video yesterday of one of them. You can view it here: -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7rqF24Sjsg

That may help forum members understand what is going on and what to do about it. View in HD for the best quality.
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gutuami
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that's my turnover for that race
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Dobbin
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Hi Folks

Funny you should Highlight that race.

Apart from Trading I rate every race on the UK and Irish.

That one came up as a bet for me

I stake them £70.00/£30.00 the £70.00 going on the shorter odds at the off.

I checked 5 mins before the race and my £70.00 looked as though it was going on Haajes @ 8.20 as Mango Music was higher.

By the time it came to the Off Haajes was the greater odds at 10.50

The Return was 215.00

Without the Odds flipping it should have been £474.00

It is happening quite often now

Cheers

Dobbin

1 4 08/10 v York 4:30 10.50 8.60 Haajes Mango Music FLT 20 5f 1 215.00
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