Farcical!!! - Manipulation of Betfair odds

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Exacta
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PeterLe wrote:Is there any pattern to the Dates and/or Courses??
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Seems to come and go but no pattern.
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Bet Angel wrote:Could be, not a bad theory. This tactic is ruining the markets again today, I just can't get enough turns through.
not a bad take on it - could be!
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I recorded some video yesterday of one of them. You can view it here: -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7rqF24Sjsg

That may help forum members understand what is going on and what to do about it. View in HD for the best quality.
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gutuami
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that's my turnover for that race
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Dobbin
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Hi Folks

Funny you should Highlight that race.

Apart from Trading I rate every race on the UK and Irish.

That one came up as a bet for me

I stake them £70.00/£30.00 the £70.00 going on the shorter odds at the off.

I checked 5 mins before the race and my £70.00 looked as though it was going on Haajes @ 8.20 as Mango Music was higher.

By the time it came to the Off Haajes was the greater odds at 10.50

The Return was 215.00

Without the Odds flipping it should have been £474.00

It is happening quite often now

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Dobbin

1 4 08/10 v York 4:30 10.50 8.60 Haajes Mango Music FLT 20 5f 1 215.00
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This was an odd one, it made me wonder whether it's a bot. The reason, this is a very low grade race and there wasn't a great deal of volume, but there was a lot of money on both sides here. I managed to work up a very significant profit. The volume on the favourite kept on coming ages after post time, the race was off 7/8 minutes late and yet I could continue to trade in volume for ages.

In total the fav did £1.1m of the total £1.3m in the race. One of the strangest markets I have seen for some time.
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This is why a certain level of knowledge although not essential to trade markets is helpful. Most punters would have initially thought that Richard Hughes being booked was a tip in itself - what with him after the title. M R Channon is a gambling stable and often have heavily traded horses and 2 runners in one race - always worth a second look and not just in the back market (if you get my drift)!!


NR Prophet In A Dream 9-8 R Hughes M R Channon 2

As Bet Angel says "Strange"
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This is a weird one, why would you attempt to hold back a massive drifter? It won as well!
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oddstrader
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i know i saw that! £132,000 holding it , i bet some of the layers are thankful
giulio2010
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I did not understand why it went from 2.7 to 4/1 so quickly but, TX anyway..the horse won I am so glad it did....
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cheers for all the help guys im slowly getting it ImageImage
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'They' seem to be active quite a bit today holding prices.
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oddstrader
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andyfuller wrote:'They' seem to be active quite a bit today holding prices.
its a pain! - scratching alot of trades today :roll:
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I'm struggling today, another day in the red.
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the back end of the day has be good though!
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