Lay the 1st Set Winner Guardian Automation Bot for Tennis

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Dallas
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chakarabet wrote:
Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:10 pm
Hi Dallas,

How do i set up a bot that the under dog that wins the first set will be layed in the second set?
And if he gets broken on his serve that the cashes out.

It is simpel strategy, but i don't know how to set it up.

Cheers
You can use the file from this thread to lay the underdog if they win the 1st - it just needs who it's applied to changing on the general tab to 2nd fav
Then you'll need to add a green up rule with the following conditions to identify they are a breakdown

Tennis Serving Condition
Selection is NOT serving

Fixed score condition
Set; selection is 1 opponent 0
Games ANY
points 0-0

Tennis Relative Score condition
Selection is 1 or more games
behind in the current set
chakarabet
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Thank you Dallas, i will do that.

See if it works.

Cheers
chri2510
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Hello !

When the favorite loses the first set he will reach price x. However, during the break of 4 minutes in between set#1 and set#2, the favorite will often drop 2 to 6+ ticks which could be crucial for the overall strategy.

I'm turning my head inside and out on this. Is there a way to order Bet Angel to play the lay bet after a time delay? Let's say after 2 minutes once the market is settled?

Thanks,
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chri2510 wrote:
Sat Apr 20, 2019 7:36 pm
Hello !

When the favorite loses the first set he will reach price x. However, during the break of 4 minutes in between set#1 and set#2, the favorite will often drop 2 to 6+ ticks which could be crucial for the overall strategy.

I'm turning my head inside and out on this. Is there a way to order Bet Angel to play the lay bet after a time delay? Let's say after 2 minutes once the market is settled?

Thanks,
Yes you can use signals to do it,ie, you'd set a signal at the end of the set, then trigger your bets with a signal changed condition (120 secs ago)
here is an example
viewtopic.php?f=51&t=11962
chri2510
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I made it work !
I feel like a genius. (thanks to you)
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chri2510 wrote:
Mon Apr 22, 2019 11:58 am
I made it work !
I feel like a genius. (thanks to you)
Good stuff

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rencoetz
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Hi All

Is there by any chance that somebody has a formula for calculating what the odds will be ( win the match ) / % move on odds if a fav or dog wins the first set.
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Most of the time as rough guide it's around 50% on a break of serve and another 50% if win first set.

For example, start odds 1.80:

Player breaks - price will drop to around 1.40
Then goes on to win first set - price will be about 1.20

Or underdog say at 4.0, would drop to around 2.0 on break, then 1.5 on winning first set.

Of course not exact, roughly within a few ticks, could be different depending on certain circumstances.
rencoetz
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Thanks for this - I monitored it seems fairly consistent.

I was wondering what the odds will be when 1-1 ?
It seems that the fav odds from match start doubles from match start - I don't if it matters if she won /lost the first set as this has a bearing on the odds ?
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Hey Dallas!

Wouldn't it be better to change "Selection (conditions only)" from "in position 1 (sorted in order of favouritism)" to rather "in row 1 (betfair order)"?
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lotora wrote:
Thu Oct 24, 2019 5:00 am
Hey Dallas!

Wouldn't it be better to change "Selection (conditions only)" from "in position 1 (sorted in order of favouritism)" to rather "in row 1 (betfair order)"?
There are no conditions on that rule so wouldn't matter what you used in that box, so it's just been left on the default option
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Hi guys,
im just trying to sus out my automation rule. i wont to Lay the winner of the 1st set and then back the opponent. only when they have won 5 games each, so its a close match. then green up when hitting at £7. i have attached my file, if somebody could give me a hand. it lays correctly then doesnt back, which is rather annoying. greens up fine.
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HI DALLAS,
PLEASE COULD YOU TELL ME IF THIS IS POSSIBLE? CHEERS WILL
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billbo001 wrote:
Tue Mar 10, 2020 7:14 am
HI DALLAS,
PLEASE COULD YOU TELL ME IF THIS IS POSSIBLE? CHEERS WILL
See your other thread
viewtopic.php?f=51&t=20705
TraderAaron
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Hi Dallas,

Thanks for this file! I’ve been using this automation to good effect, tweaked slightly to use signals to delay the bets and to do different things depending on whether it’s the fav or the dog that wins the first set. I would like to tweak it a little further to hopefully make more profit.

Basically rather than greening all I would like to create a free bet on the fav.

So my thinking is, if the fav wins the first set, more often than not, they win the second too, but they might get broken along the way and break back etc.

I can do this cause it’s easy, place a £10 lay on the fav at fixed odds of 1.61 (to limit liability) if they win first set, place a £10 back on the fav at best market price if they get broken in the second. The profit stays on the fav.

If the dog wins the first set, more often than not, the fav tries to get back into the game and if successful, goes on to win the match thanks to the momentum shift. I’m struggling with this side. Here’s what I’ve got.

Place a £10 lay on the dog at fixed odds of 1.61 (to limit liability) if they win the first set, place a £4 back on the dog at best market price if they get broken to remove liability. Then at the end of the second set, if they lose, place a £6 back on the dog at best market price. This gives me a free bet on the dog.

How would I go about transferring the free bet to the fav via automation?

Cheers, Aaron.
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