Create a No Lose Trade on Fav and Profit on the Field Guardian Automation Bot

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kaylan731 wrote:
Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:45 pm
I am new to trading, Bet angel and the automated bots. Finding it fascinating and trying to add rules and testing vigourously.
Probably been asked and answered before but on the Guardian if you want to automatically change markets having set the automation rules on all races I know to tick the automatically switch box and set a time in seconds.
If the screen changes before the race starts is the bot still going to fire? I watched the videos on this and not really sure if it does or not (prob a stupid question)
Also is there any way to automatically switch screens to the next race once it has finished?
Finally when I had the free trail on B/A Trader you could click on the file and next market dropdown but it is not working on the Pro version for me so I use the green guardian button everytime. is that right?
I think this is a great forum and cannot believe how helpful everyone is especially to newbies like me.
Guardian is designed to run automation in the background so does not require a market to be loaded on the main trading screen for rules to trigger, this post explains exactly how guardian cycles and refreshes markets
viewtopic.php?f=37&t=11491

You can add a 'Switch market' rule to an automation file, to try and identify when a race has finished you could add a 'fixed odds condition' to specify the favs lay price is = to 1.01
of course, this could mean it may switch before the actual end if it looks a dead cert in the closing stages but it will work 99.9% of the time

All the trader options are available within the pro version, the market selection tool has a 'G' icon at the top of the window to add markets to Guardian
If this is not what you meant if you could perhaps provide a screenshot highlighting what's different for you I'll be able to advise further
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Thanks Dallas for your reply.
Didn't realise I could change the refresh rate in Guardian and that the number of markets loaded would affect the refresh rate.
Also selecting the races nearest the off to be refreshed in preference to ones further down the list. Really grateful for this information.
Will have a play with the Switch market rule as well thanks
All I meant with the next market drop down was that on B/A trader there was no Guardian green button so used this box to change to next or previous market. This does not work on Pro Not a big issue just wondered if I had a problem or not.
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Not done a screen shot before, hope it works ok.
Thanks again for your advice
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I see what you mean now, Guardian isn't included with Trader that's why there would be no icon there

To use the CTRL+N and CTRL+P shortcuts you need to select the first market manually
ie, click on the 'Quick Pick' tab and select the first race of the day

after that, those shortcut keys will load the next and previous race as they appear in your quick pick
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That's great,
Thanks again.
Appreciate your help and patience.
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Hi Dallas, should I be looking at certain odds on the fav or close odds to the other runners for it to work best.
And increasing the stakes does it make it a lot more risky with out some sort of stop loss added to it.
I've been using it at 10 ticks while getting used to it.
Thank you.
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Hi problem I have with this bot is that some races is not placing back bet or lay bet and some is placing just back any one knows why ? Most of them it works fine.


Log form a good race 18/10/2018 15:25:02: [G_Auto] : £ 0.34 Back bet placed on Dieg Man at 15.5. Fully matched at 15.5. Ref: 141458865709
18/10/2018 15:25:08: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
18/10/2018 15:25:14: Guardian has detected that the market is in-play
18/10/2018 15:25:20: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
18/10/2018 15:25:23: [G_Auto] : £ 0.61 Lay bet placed on Dieg Man at 9.2. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 141458932063
18/10/2018 15:30:51: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended

And from a next one

18/10/2018 15:37:16: Guardian has detected that the market is in-play
18/10/2018 15:37:16: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
18/10/2018 15:37:23: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
18/10/2018 15:38:52: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended

or

18/10/2018 15:15:01: [G_Auto] : £ 0.24 Back bet placed on Torrid at 22. Fully matched at 22. Ref: 141457691453
18/10/2018 15:18:37: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
18/10/2018 15:18:43: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
18/10/2018 15:19:47: Guardian has detected that the market is in-play
18/10/2018 15:19:47: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
18/10/2018 15:19:54: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
18/10/2018 15:24:04: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
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Winty wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 3:07 pm
Hi Dallas, should I be looking at certain odds on the fav or close odds to the other runners for it to work best.
And increasing the stakes does it make it a lot more risky with out some sort of stop loss added to it.
I've been using it at 10 ticks while getting used to it.
Thank you.
Probably best with a clear fav at odds of 3+
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globi166 wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 3:49 pm
Hi problem I have with this bot is that some races is not placing back bet or lay bet and some is placing just back any one knows why ? Most of them it works fine.
The number of suspends and unsuspends looks a bit strange, can you confirm if you load a market on the ladder screen you can see the full market depth or if its limited to just the best 3 prices and no traded volume?
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Dallas wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 5:34 pm
globi166 wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 3:49 pm
Hi problem I have with this bot is that some races is not placing back bet or lay bet and some is placing just back any one knows why ? Most of them it works fine.
The number of suspends and unsuspends looks a bit strange, can you confirm if you load a market on the ladder screen you can see the full market depth or if its limited to just the best 3 prices and no traded volume?

No its a normal market. Just a thought, could it be my VPN interfering ?
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globi166 wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 6:44 pm
Dallas wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 5:34 pm
globi166 wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 3:49 pm
Hi problem I have with this bot is that some races is not placing back bet or lay bet and some is placing just back any one knows why ? Most of them it works fine.
The number of suspends and unsuspends looks a bit strange, can you confirm if you load a market on the ladder screen you can see the full market depth or if its limited to just the best 3 prices and no traded volume?

No its a normal market. Just a thought, could it be my VPN interfering ?
That could explain why its not always triggering, but it won't have anything to do with the amount of suspend & unsuspend logs these come from BF, perhaps there was a few more than usual on those particular markets.

Have you noticed any pattern to when it's not triggering? I've just double checked the lay rule and its armed the whole race so even a moments drop in connection wouldn't stop it from triggering
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Dallas wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 8:48 pm
globi166 wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 6:44 pm
Dallas wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 5:34 pm


The number of suspends and unsuspends looks a bit strange, can you confirm if you load a market on the ladder screen you can see the full market depth or if its limited to just the best 3 prices and no traded volume?

No its a normal market. Just a thought, could it be my VPN interfering ?
That could explain why its not always triggering, but it won't have anything to do with the amount of suspend & unsuspend logs these come from BF, perhaps there was a few more than usual on those particular markets.

Have you noticed any pattern to when it's not triggering? I've just double checked the lay rule and its armed the whole race so even a moments drop in connection wouldn't stop it from triggering

Thx for your help Dallas, It was a 3 day only of testing this bot so I only noticed those 5 races yesterday, but I will keep my eye on it and post here if any pattern will emerge.
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Ok today last bet was placed on 14 15 Redcar after that bot stopped placing bets at all

19/10/2018 14:15:04: [G_Auto] : £ 0.29 Back bet placed on Quduraat at 18. Fully matched at 18. Ref: 141555231321
19/10/2018 14:17:28: Guardian has detected that the market is in-play
19/10/2018 14:17:28: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
19/10/2018 14:17:37: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
19/10/2018 14:17:40: [G_Auto] : £ 0.33 Lay bet placed on Quduraat at 16. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 141555597382
19/10/2018 14:18:46: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended

19/10/2018 14:20:30: Guardian has detected that the market is in-play
19/10/2018 14:20:30: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
19/10/2018 14:20:38: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
19/10/2018 14:23:57: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended

19/10/2018 14:31:54: Guardian has detected that the market is in-play
19/10/2018 14:31:54: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
19/10/2018 14:32:02: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
19/10/2018 14:33:09: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended

and so on..
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Dallas wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 5:24 pm
Winty wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 3:07 pm
Hi Dallas, should I be looking at certain odds on the fav or close odds to the other runners for it to work best.
And increasing the stakes does it make it a lot more risky with out some sort of stop loss added to it.
I've been using it at 10 ticks while getting used to it.
Thank you.
Probably best with a clear fav at odds of 3+
Thank you, appreciate all the work and effort
You put in.
Already learnt a lot from your posts and this forum.
Just trying to take take it a step a time ,these automation bots are great for learning to trade too.
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Any idea how to overcome odds movement prerace to in play? As often I see this:

lay placed and matched only 6 ticks below
General Custard 2.84 Back
General Custard 2.72 Lay

next race 11 tick below
New Graduate 2.34 back
New Graduate 2.12 lay



Any chance I can fix it so its always the same amount of ticks below ?
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globi166 wrote:
Fri Oct 19, 2018 5:27 pm
Any idea how to overcome odds movement prerace to in play? As often I see this:

lay placed and matched only 6 ticks below
General Custard 2.84 Back
General Custard 2.72 Lay

next race 11 tick below
New Graduate 2.34 back
New Graduate 2.12 lay



Any chance I can fix it so its always the same amount of ticks below ?
If you mean so there is no gap between the price (or a specified number of ticks gap) then yes, a 'Relative Odds Condition' can be used to do this. Here are a few examples which use this
viewtopic.php?f=43&t=11522
viewtopic.php?f=56&t=11669
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