DOBing @ 50% & Back 2 Lay @ 20% Guardian Automation Bot

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Dallas
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Ariosai wrote:
Sun Jun 03, 2018 3:34 pm
Hi, is it easy to make servant based on this automation?

Cheers

Ari
Yes, very easy to do, you'll first need to remove one of the back rules

Then on the General tab of the other just change it from 'Guardian nominated selection' to 'applied to Servant Context'

If you want to use your stake from the ladder or one-click screen and/or have the servant place it at the odds of your choice then on the parameters tab change the 'Place at' and 'Stake' to servant context selection
Ariosai
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Ok, thank you. Time to learn. :)
wtvar
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i am having issues with this bot not setting the bet to keep sometimes.
any reason it would not trigger sometimes?
got the settings as in file from original post
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also below the log of two bets from same day. one where it does and one where it doesnt keep

16/03/2019 15:15:06: [G_Auto] : £ 4.00 Back bet placed on Vivas at 55. Fully matched at 55. Ref: 157534839950 ( Fill or kill bet with 60 seconds delay. Offsetting by 20% [A] with greening. )
16/03/2019 15:15:06: [G_Auto] : £ 4.00 Back bet placed on Peacocks Secret at 21. Fully matched at 21. Ref: 157534839752 ( Fill or kill bet with 60 seconds delay. Offsetting by 50% [A] with greening. )
16/03/2019 15:15:06: [G_Auto] : £ 8.00 Lay bet placed on Peacocks Secret at 10.5. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 157534841478
16/03/2019 15:15:06: [G_Auto] : £ 5.00 Lay bet placed on Vivas at 44. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 157534841145
16/03/2019 15:15:19: Guardian has detected that the market is in-play
16/03/2019 15:15:19: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
16/03/2019 15:15:32: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
16/03/2019 15:20:40: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended

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16/03/2019 15:30:06: [G_Auto] : £ 4.00 Back bet placed on Littlestickarubarb at 6. Fully matched at 6. Ref: 157539687167 ( Fill or kill bet with 60 seconds delay. Offsetting by 50% [A] with greening. )
16/03/2019 15:30:06: [G_Auto] : £ 4.00 Back bet placed on Littlestickarubarb at 6. Fully matched at 6. Ref: 157539687178 ( Fill or kill bet with 60 seconds delay. Offsetting by 20% [A] with greening. )
16/03/2019 15:30:07: [G_Auto] : £ 5.00 Lay bet placed on Littlestickarubarb at 4.8. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 157539688301
16/03/2019 15:30:07: [G_Auto] : £ 8.00 Lay bet placed on Littlestickarubarb at 3. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 157539688253
16/03/2019 15:30:17: [G_Auto] : Modify bet persistence 157539688253 from 'Cancel' to 'Keep'
16/03/2019 15:30:17: [G_Auto] : Modify bet persistence 157539688301 from 'Cancel' to 'Keep'

16/03/2019 15:30:39: Guardian has detected that the market is in-play
16/03/2019 15:30:39: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
16/03/2019 15:30:50: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
16/03/2019 15:35:16: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
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wtvar wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2019 4:23 pm
i am having issues with this bot not setting the bet to keep sometimes.
any reason it would not trigger sometimes?
got the settings as in file from original post
Image


also below the log of two bets from same day. one where it does and one where it doesnt keep

16/03/2019 15:15:06: [G_Auto] : £ 4.00 Back bet placed on Vivas at 55. Fully matched at 55. Ref: 157534839950 ( Fill or kill bet with 60 seconds delay. Offsetting by 20% [A] with greening. )
16/03/2019 15:15:06: [G_Auto] : £ 4.00 Back bet placed on Peacocks Secret at 21. Fully matched at 21. Ref: 157534839752 ( Fill or kill bet with 60 seconds delay. Offsetting by 50% [A] with greening. )
16/03/2019 15:15:06: [G_Auto] : £ 8.00 Lay bet placed on Peacocks Secret at 10.5. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 157534841478
16/03/2019 15:15:06: [G_Auto] : £ 5.00 Lay bet placed on Vivas at 44. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 157534841145
16/03/2019 15:15:19: Guardian has detected that the market is in-play
16/03/2019 15:15:19: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
16/03/2019 15:15:32: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
16/03/2019 15:20:40: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended

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16/03/2019 15:30:06: [G_Auto] : £ 4.00 Back bet placed on Littlestickarubarb at 6. Fully matched at 6. Ref: 157539687167 ( Fill or kill bet with 60 seconds delay. Offsetting by 50% [A] with greening. )
16/03/2019 15:30:06: [G_Auto] : £ 4.00 Back bet placed on Littlestickarubarb at 6. Fully matched at 6. Ref: 157539687178 ( Fill or kill bet with 60 seconds delay. Offsetting by 20% [A] with greening. )
16/03/2019 15:30:07: [G_Auto] : £ 5.00 Lay bet placed on Littlestickarubarb at 4.8. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 157539688301
16/03/2019 15:30:07: [G_Auto] : £ 8.00 Lay bet placed on Littlestickarubarb at 3. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 157539688253
16/03/2019 15:30:17: [G_Auto] : Modify bet persistence 157539688253 from 'Cancel' to 'Keep'
16/03/2019 15:30:17: [G_Auto] : Modify bet persistence 157539688301 from 'Cancel' to 'Keep'

16/03/2019 15:30:39: Guardian has detected that the market is in-play
16/03/2019 15:30:39: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
16/03/2019 15:30:50: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
16/03/2019 15:35:16: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
Do you have over 20 markets in Guardian and are you refreshing them at 1sec or slower?

If so the 'keep bets' rule is only armed for 20 secs so you are not refreshing the markets quickly enough that each one has the chance to trigger.

The following post details this more and lists a few ways to optimize your guardian settings
viewtopic.php?f=37&t=11491
Bri1980
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Hello,

New member here and I am looking to create a B2L bot.

I am not very experienced with creating bots so any helpful tips would be greatly appreciated.

I would like to back a horse at BSP then have 3 lay bets at 15% below BSP, 30% below BSP and 45% below BSP. I woud like these lay amounts to equal my total stake, leaving me with a green on my selection.

Then I would like to green up when horse hits 60% below BSP

Is this possible ?

Thanks
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Bri1980 wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 12:49 pm
Hello,

New member here and I am looking to create a B2L bot.

I am not very experienced with creating bots so any helpful tips would be greatly appreciated.

I would like to back a horse at BSP then have 3 lay bets at 15% below BSP, 30% below BSP and 45% below BSP. I woud like these lay amounts to equal my total stake, leaving me with a green on my selection.

Then I would like to green up when horse hits 60% below BSP

Is this possible ?

Thanks
If you have a look at this file it shows how to split offset bets
viewtopic.php?f=43&t=12284

You could then edit this DOBing rule in a similar way by selecting the back @ 50% rule and clicking the two green arrows to duplicate the whole rule, then go in and change the stake of each one and on the parameters tab change from offset bet with greening to just offset bet

To green up when the horse hits 60% is a little more tricky and requires the use of Stored values, to do this go back to your first (top) back bet rule and go onto the store value tab and enter the following

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Then after saving click the green plus icon to create a new rule and add a 'close trade on selection with greening' rule applied to Guardian nominated selection 1

Then add the following condition

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That should do everything you've asked for
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Bri1980
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Thanks Dallas, really appreciate the response.

I managed to set up 3 separate back bets with offsets at 15 , 30 and 45%.

I will test this today and if successful I will move onto the tricky 60% green up.

Thanks again
Alfieboy
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Hi Dallas love this strategy and am happy with the dob. Instead of the 20% back to lay I want to lay at a third of the odds for three times the stake. How would I set this up. Thanks a lot
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Alfieboy wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2019 11:12 pm
Hi Dallas love this strategy and am happy with the dob. Instead of the 20% back to lay I want to lay at a third of the odds for three times the stake. How would I set this up. Thanks a lot
So you want to 'overlay' for more profit on this selection if it losses but accept a loss if it wins?
Alfieboy
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No I think I worded it wrong. Instead of the 20% back to lay I want to lay at a third of the BSP and just wondered what figure I replace the 20% with.
TheUndertones
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I have downloaded this file and changed % to 75 instead of 50. I have also removed the 20% rule and changed the nominated selection to be the 1st in order of favouritism.

So this should back the favourite with £10 then place a lay bet at 75% of the back odds. I have selected this to run on all markets and saved the settings in guardian.

However, no bets have been triggered in the first two races of the day?

Is this anything to do with changing the rules of the automation file, or do I need to have something else set before an automation file works correctly?

Thank you.
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The changes you've made are fine.

However the back bet rule is only armed for 10 secs before the off and if you've added all todays markets to Guardian and not changed the default Guardian refresh rate then it will be to slow to cycle through and refresh all your markets (and trigger rules).

The following thread explains how this all works and the ways to confirngure guardian so that rules trigger optimally
viewtopic.php?f=37&t=11491

Following the suggestions in that post should resolve it for you
TheUndertones
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Thank you Dallas, I have changed this and it is working fine.

Can I ask, is it possible to place a dob bet, so back then keep a lay bet at 50% of the back odds and then trail this bet like a trailing stop?

So if the horse goes down to 50% of the odds and continues to drop, trail the odds until it goes back out 5 ticks or whetever and then place the lay bet for a profit. This way, if the horse goes on to drop further than half the odds, or even win, you will make more profit.

Thank you.
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TheUndertones wrote:
Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:55 pm
Thank you Dallas, I have changed this and it is working fine.

Can I ask, is it possible to place a dob bet, so back then keep a lay bet at 50% of the back odds and then trail this bet like a trailing stop?

So if the horse goes down to 50% of the odds and continues to drop, trail the odds until it goes back out 5 ticks or whetever and then place the lay bet for a profit. This way, if the horse goes on to drop further than half the odds, or even win, you will make more profit.

Thank you.
It could be done but it would be easier to start with a fresh bot to do as it would require the use of stored values and set up in a very different way.
I could add one to the shared files section as an example, it would probs be easier than typing out all the instructions to it
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If you could Dallas that would be great. Thanks very much.
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