User interfaces need updating

[drwho]

I normally use other software but occasionally come over to Betangel to take a look. Both need updating. other software hasn't changed over the past few years and has become quite outdated and it seems Betangel, although better than other software in many ways, needs a kick up the arse too.

For instance, when watching a soccer match on the grid interface, there's no indication of where we are in the game, how many minutes have elapsed, or what the scores are. Sure you can have a separate window with Flashscore open but why hasn't this all be integrated into the software ? OK, they'll have to pay data fees but those could be recovered in the license fee. At least add it as an option. The same probably goes for other sports too.

Another big gripe is the Guardian. Unless I'm missing something (quite possible) you have to put everything in manually when there really should be an option to add all the markets you've bet on. Say you use the website or mobile app to place bets, you should be able to automatically see those markets in Guardian. I suggested to other software ages ago having what I called a 'Dashboard' and which they kindly added. It does just that and you can see all the markets you've bet on together with your overall positions and liabilities. It's really useful and for the life of me I can't see why this hasn't been added to Guardian.

Whilst I think Betangel has kept pace better than other software there's never a reason to be complacent and I think both softwares need to think about updating their interfaces.

[drwho]

Other Software has been removed in my OP which is pretty pathetic really....

[spreadbetting]

You'll find all the other forums remove links or mention of competitors, might be silly but not only BA that do it.

At he end of the day we all trade differently so want different things. You'll never get software that does everything you need unless you go bespoke which few ever do due to the cost.

[Euler]

We have suffered from historic abuse from others, which is why that policy is in place. We have an auto replacement on a number of things to actively discourage this type and other types of activity. We realise that may cause the odd problem but it's the only way to stop bad actors. People don't really seem to have an issue with it as a whole and understand clearly what people are talking about. We prefer to have a light touch here as people know.

With regard to updating the UI it's a huge task, which is why a lot of vendors haven't bothered. That and the fact they can't without a wholesale rewrite of the code base. We have invested a lot of time though in development so have made huge leaps in recent years with regard to the flexibility, functionality and display.

We aim to continue that in 2019.

[Euler]

It's really useful and for the life of me I can't see why this hasn't been added to Guardian

It's available on the watch lists in Guardian.

[Trader Pat]

"Other Software" tweeted a link to a youtube video yesterday which was about the layout of the stake buttons, youtube video is dated 2009, says it all really

[LeTiss]

Other software?.......I'm blocked on Twitter by those idiots.

[Trader Pat]

Other software?.......I'm blocked on Twitter by those idiots.

Unfortunately there's no high five emoji!

[ShaunWhite]

Please please please keep the UI just as it is. All the slick 'modern' skinned look is just style over substance.

BA isn't a game it's a tradesmans tool and thankfully it adopts the same UI aesthetic as 'proper' software (no diss, I'm taking about the 25k a seat stuff). Simple, effective, familiar and efficient. It's a natural beauty, the others are just pigs in lipstick.

[jimibt]

Please please please keep the UI just as it is. All the slick 'modern' skinned look is just style over substance.

BA isn't a game it's a tradesmans tool and thankfully it adopts the same UI aesthetic as 'proper' software (no diss, I'm taking about the 25k a seat stuff). Simple, effective, familiar and efficient. It's a natural beauty, the others are just pigs in lipstick.

Shaun, whilst I agree, I do think that some additional flexibility could be added now that we have the ability to link markets via event ID. I've not nutted this out yet but by having a rule that references an event ID, I can see a natural flow in representing all facets of that event in another tab 'somewhere'. Add to that notifications from those linked markets and you have a complete solution in a box for trading across multiple markets in a single location.

As I said, not nutted out but see it in my mind's eye

[soccersaint]

I think it is a valid point suggested on here numerous times by numerous subscribers of BA, can we improve market + match loading in guardian, especially football and offer an improved way to view open markets.

Can we make it more efficient for users to have the above without changing the UI ...... the answer is YES l feel we can.

Auto loading your leagues and markets at one click from a “My Markets” menu would help. Could markets be viewed in a coupon similar to a watch list but with each match having their individual markets on that coupon ?

Could it even be possible to place a trade from the bottom coupon in Guardian rather than spawning a further one click screen ? Why do I need so much monitor real estate and screen space for all these lists from the “ pin it here and pin it there brigade” when betfair themselves manage to offer a nice simple solution in one easy view coupon !

Maybe the good Doctor has a point Shaun

[ShaunWhite]

I'm all for more functionality, especially around related markets. What I wouldn't like to see is a stylised interface just to give it shelf appeal. The benefit of the infragistics controls BA uses, is that they work in a familiar and intuitive way.

All that said they could do with hiring a good artist for a week and getting them to design some alternative colour palettes. The std one is a bit incipid and a choice of day theme / night theme would be a nice touch and ones for people with colour differentiation issues too.

[soccersaint]

I don’t think the user interface needs changing, I do think the market loading for football needs serious attention though.

Loading markets to Guardian...
Racing and greyhounds has a nice feel quick pic list ... football has a nice ish Search Markets feature and an awful Soccer tab.

The search markets tab just needs updating to make it just as easy and quick to load your preferred football markets as it is for the Horse and Greyhound markets. You don’t need to type in every time for those markets so why make football market loading so tedious. You could customise the search markets list, but the point I am making is why make us do that when a simple fix would give us a proper soccer quick pic list...it has to be an area that is improved as every one loads guardian everyday for automation... and they all must be asking the same question if it’s football markets they are loading...
It has been said trading psychology is as much about enjoying the experience as it is anything else...and I hate the current format for loading football....

Anyone agree or agree to disagree....?

[BetScalper]

The way forward Is automation and not just when it comes to trading.

Many things are going to change in the next 5 to 10 years through AI.

It will come down to who is faster, fully automated machine or manual button/mouse clicker.

Millions will become unemployable and face the same fate as the DODO.

[drwho]

The way forward Is automation and not just when it comes to trading.

Many things are going to change in the next 5 to 10 years through AI.

It will come down to who is faster, fully automated machine or manual button/mouse clicker.

Millions will become unemployable and face the same fate as the DODO.

Totally agree and the speed with which this will happen will surprise almost everyone. We're really not prepared for what is coming. What this has to do with my OP I've no idea but it's a really interesting subject.