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Naffman wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:58 am
Some bloke is probably worse than #4

He laps up the attention he gets when people call him out as he claims to sell more ebooks as a result :lol:

He has lived in Blackpool and Skipton - hardly places that scream I make tons of money trading!
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Heres something just for you Naffman, click the link, sit back and enjoy, I'm sure you'll be twice the trader you were before you watched it :lol:

LINK REMOVED

On a serious note theres a lot of this kind of stuff around, in this case its a website endorsing questionable characters and others who post links to people selling ebooks and the like , to borrow an American phrase its one big circle jerk.

Interesting thing about this particular website is most of the 'articles' seem to be written by the same person calling himself 'man of mystery' and he spends a bit of time pushing a certain software... I wonder who that could be :?: (this emoji looks very like him by the way)

Korrattt posted this link on abother thread a while back but thought it was worth another airing :D
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dragontrades wrote:
Sun Apr 22, 2018 7:53 pm
What's your opinion of the CranBerry?
I thought this was very revealing :)

https://youtu.be/gm4F6YIu6ZM?t=11m55s
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spreadbetting wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:01 pm
dragontrades wrote:
Sun Apr 22, 2018 7:53 pm
What's your opinion of the CranBerry?
I thought this was very revealing :)
In what way?
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In the way he avoided answering it.
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Trader Pat wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:15 pm
Naffman wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:58 am
Some bloke is probably worse than #4

He laps up the attention he gets when people call him out as he claims to sell more ebooks as a result :lol:

He has lived in Blackpool and Skipton - hardly places that scream I make tons of money trading!
.
Heres something just for you Naffman, click the link, sit back and enjoy, I'm sure you'll be twice the trader you were before you watched it :lol:

LINK REMOVED

On a serious note theres a lot of this kind of stuff around, in this case its a website endorsing questionable characters and others who post links to people selling ebooks and the like , to borrow an American phrase its one big circle jerk.

Interesting thing about this particular website is most of the 'articles' seem to be written by the same person calling himself 'man of mystery' and he spends a bit of time pushing a certain software... I wonder who that could be :?: (this emoji looks very like him by the way)

Korrattt posted this link on abother thread a while back but thought it was worth another airing :D
Dammit I can't see it now :lol:

And I watched sections of that video and he didn't seem to say much did he?

It'd be great to know which BF traders actually pay the PC instead of having to take someone's word for it
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Naffman wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:39 pm
Dammit I can't see it now :lol:
Was nothing too exciting, just the bloke from Blackpool and Skipton talking about himself! The BA mods have probably done you a favour by removing it :D
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spreadbetting wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 5:35 pm
In the way he avoided answering it.
I might be being silly here but didnt betfair use caan years ago to promote trading on the exchanges .....

Cant see them doing that if the bloke wasnt making money
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dragontrades wrote:
Sun Apr 22, 2018 7:53 pm
What's your opinion of the CranBerry?
I haven't seen any of his p&l so can't form any opinion about him. but by all appearances he seems a regular trader who would do much better if using a better software ...
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Folks,
I just want to set the record straight about Caan
Ive met Caan at different events over the years and we even did some work together
He’s a genuine guy and a good trader (I’ve sat next to him on occasions at his flat and watched him trade). He’s not a fake.
I have no reason to lie
If you met him face to face, I think those of you who doubt him would change your minds

Yes, he has material for sale, but I would do exactly the same if I could. He doesn’t hide anything and he genuinely wants people to succeed.
The truth is he has worked his arse off to get to this position. Its unfair for people to make snap judgements
His blog is worth reading from the start if you get the chance and you will see the journey he has made.
regards
Peter
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I wanted to say, I didn't mean for this to become a witch-hunt. (Although, of course, it makes sense to relate this back to what posters here know).

I think there's probably a spectrum: outright fraud at one end of it and expert training at the other. Even then that will be clouded, because of the temptation of some people to blame their failures after (expert) training on that, rather than properly on themselves.

I was astonished that some of the claims in that article, but I guess it shows the power of people wanting to believe in something, and being willing to ignore evidence that all is not right (or being educationally or cognitively unable to see that evidence in the first place).

Seems some people have forgotten the last part of the old saying - if something seems too good to be true...
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PeterLe clearly knows Caan better than 99% of others here.

I follow him on Twitter. I like what he says, there's no sugar coating with his opinions. I accept he isn't a natural in front of the camera like Peter Webb, and doesn't portray himself in the same articulate way as Peter, but nonetheless has some interesting things to say
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brimson25
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I agree with that. Not Caan, and not trading but more gambling twitter is a minefield btw. Amazing numbers of idiots congratulating themselves over 1.3 bankers (who are no-where to be seen when their 1.3 "banker" is gubbed). :oops:

I think it could be an enormously dangerous for nice, trusting people. My starting point, from which I depart if the evidence is there, is:

- why is this lying, liar, lying to me?

A good stance for gambling, with the sad side-effect that you become an embittered, cynical old man long before your time. :roll:

Still, better a cynic than a mug.
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PeterLe wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 9:46 pm
Folks,
I just want to set the record straight about Caan
Ive met Caan at different events over the years and we even did some work together
He’s a genuine guy and a good trader (I’ve sat next to him on occasions at his flat and watched him trade). He’s not a fake.
I have no reason to lie
If you met him face to face, I think those of you who doubt him would change your minds

Yes, he has material for sale, but I would do exactly the same if I could. He doesn’t hide anything and he genuinely wants people to succeed.
The truth is he has worked his arse off to get to this position. Its unfair for people to make snap judgements
His blog is worth reading from the start if you get the chance and you will see the journey he has made.
regards
Peter

Fair enough you'll most likely know him a lot better than the rest of us then. I used to speak to him a bit in his early days and at the time he certainly came across as a genuine guy. I always get a bit cynical when I see people avoiding the PC issue as if it's nothing or somehow they're easily avoiding it, might be easy to generate a few hundred but trying to generate a few thousand each week in commission at 3% isn't as easy as people like to imply. I guess with the ebook side of things he's just maximising his income and I'd be very surprised if he's the driving force behind the website etc.
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spreadbetting wrote:
Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:08 pm
I always get a bit cynical when I see people avoiding the PC issue as if it's nothing
To be fair they all skirted the issue, As Dan alluded to, they all have an interest in not pissing off BF.

Even Peter just talked about overround, it's never been easier, it's better than transaction charges, and that it makes him do his straight betting elsewhere.

Nobody critisised it or talked about avoidance or the problem it causes, all I saw was 3 people with varying confidence public speaking.
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spreadbetting wrote:
Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:08 pm
I guess with the ebook side of things he's just maximising his income.
All three of them sell stuff.
Dan, his tennis ratings.
Caan, vids and ebook.
Peter, courses, 'learn to trade' vids, software etc
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