Lay Fav if 2nd Fav Gets Within 1 Odds of Fav Guardian Automation Bot

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NeilSpence wrote:
Sat Feb 02, 2019 2:04 pm
Hi Dallas,
Still trying to work out how to adjust the files.
How do I alter this file so it only lays the fav if a 2nd runner hits £2.50 rather than within 1 as it is currently set.
I would like to only lay the fav if it has hit less than say £2.30.
No greening up is required.
Are those 3 simple adjustments ?
Thanks,
Neil
Yes, that's straight forward, you would just need 2 x Fixed odds conditions adding to the lay rule
1st to test the price of the fav is <2.30
2nd to test the price of the 2nd fav is <2.50
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I am trying to use the Keep it simple method. I have tried to simplify what I want to do but it doesnt seem to lay the fav.
I reckon my new basic method is to just lay the original fav when a second horse comes into £2.70.
I have made the lay price to be at 5.1 as I know the price may have jumped up by that point.(Is that the best thing to make sure the lay gets caught.)
Is there something that is incorrect in my file for it not to lay the fav?
Thanks
New Plan 3.2.19.baf
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NeilSpence wrote:
Sun Feb 03, 2019 4:01 pm
I am trying to use the Keep it simple method. I have tried to simplify what I want to do but it doesnt seem to lay the fav.
I reckon my new basic method is to just lay the original fav when a second horse comes into £2.70.
I have made the lay price to be at 5.1 as I know the price may have jumped up by that point.(Is that the best thing to make sure the lay gets caught.)
Is there something that is incorrect in my file for it not to lay the fav?
Thanks

New Plan 3.2.19.baf
As far as I can see there only one small error, which is you're applying the lay rule to the fav

As your already setting a signal on the fav at the start of the race your lay rule can be applied to ANY selection and the signal condition you have will ensure it finds the fav from the start of the race.
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Hi Dallas

This automation is working well, so thanks

Question. Is there a condition I can add for a stop loss or back the clear favourite, so either way the loss would be small

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Andy
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awhit66 wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 6:26 pm
Hi Dallas

This automation is working well, so thanks

Question. Is there a condition I can add for a stop loss or back the clear favourite, so either way the loss would be small

Regards
Andy
You would need to add another rule (rather than a condition), the following thread explains how and what to add, there's also a link to an example file you can download and copy into this file if you still get stuck
viewtopic.php?f=47&t=11488
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Hi Dallas,

This is a great bot for Aussie thoroughbreds - thank you. I am seeing genuine results. Can I ask, how can I manage the downside when the Back bet (+15 ticks) does not get filled? Can I kill that bet and resubmit with a shorter price with the aim of having it filled and reducing my losses? Happy to take a hit, just not a big one.

Cheers,
Josh
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jjpd99 wrote:
Sun May 12, 2024 1:25 am
Hi Dallas,

This is a great bot for Aussie thoroughbreds - thank you. I am seeing genuine results. Can I ask, how can I manage the downside when the Back bet (+15 ticks) does not get filled? Can I kill that bet and resubmit with a shorter price with the aim of having it filled and reducing my losses? Happy to take a hit, just not a big one.

Cheers,
Josh
Yes you could reprice the original bet after its been unmatched a period of time or the price moves 'X' ticks against you
Slightly different way of doing each so would need to know which you'd want to do to advise the way of setting it up
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Cheers Dallas - how do I set these up? Both options could be suitable.

Appreciate your assistance.
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What is the advantages of using the signals to accomplish this?

Could this not be accomplished just by using the Historical Relative Odds condition without the signals?
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BettingAutomation wrote:
Tue May 14, 2024 5:08 pm
What is the advantages of using the signals to accomplish this?

Could this not be accomplished just by using the Historical Relative Odds condition without the signals?
Its detailed in paragraph 4 of the OP
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jjpd99 wrote:
Tue May 14, 2024 5:42 am
Cheers Dallas - how do I set these up? Both options could be suitable.

Appreciate your assistance.
To reprice it if it moves 'X' ticks away

On the lay bet rule use the stored value tab and store the price the lay bet is placed at (with a name of your choice)
then further down that window use the Adjustment option and minus 'X' ticks (X being the number of ticks you want to let the price move against your opening lay bet

Then add a 'close trade on selection with greening' rule with a 'Stored Value Condition'
to test the back price is less than the stored value named (whatever you called it above)


To reprice it after a period of time

Add a 'Set/Modify Signal rule' and use the signal tab tab and set a signal on the selection (with a name of your choice)
then add a 'Unmatched Bets Amount Condition' to test the amount of unmatched bets backs is greater than £0

Then add a 'close trade on selection with greening' rule with a 'Signal Changed Condition'
to test the signal named (whatever you called it above)
changed between 10 - 20 secs ago
(10 being the amount of time you want it to be since the unmatched back bet was in the market and set the signal)
20 being incase you want the rule to re-trigger a few times in case not matched, ie, a 10sec window will allow you to trigger the rule 3 times rearming every 4 secs)
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Dallas wrote:
Wed May 15, 2024 8:34 am
BettingAutomation wrote:
Tue May 14, 2024 5:08 pm
What is the advantages of using the signals to accomplish this?

Could this not be accomplished just by using the Historical Relative Odds condition without the signals?
Its detailed in paragraph 4 of the OP
Thank you. There's me busted for only reading what it does then downloading the file to see how it is set up, instead of reading your post that wrote that explains it.

Is there any way with signal(s) to say that the favourites odds are below a certain odds point, then they have increased, all while the horse in 2nd and or 3rd place have decreased, then subsequently a lay bet is placed on the fav?
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