EU Membership Referendum (Brexit)

[Archangel]

Caroline Lucas suggests an all-women "emergency cabinet" could meet to try and stop a no-deal Brexit.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49321430

The whole 'if women were in charge the world would be a much better place' idea is waring a bit thin. Theresa May was PM for 3 years and couldnt get anything done with Brexit. Not to mention Thatcher who wasnt known for being warm and cuddly with foreign policy.

[Euler]

Dogs are very caring and considerate, so I think they should be in charge. Stick a cute Pug in number 10 and you would have an instant majority.

[Archangel]

Dogs are very caring and considerate, so I think they should be in charge. Stick a cute Pug in number 10 and you would have an instant majority.

A cute Pug with a cute name = Landslide victory

[Euler]

Had to wiki it

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-human ... candidates

[superfrank]

Dogs are very caring and considerate, so I think they should be in charge. Stick a cute Pug in number 10 and you would have an instant majority.

A cute Pug with a cute name = Landslide victory

Surely it would have to be a bitch?!

[firlandsfarm]

It's currently looking like the next GE will be in November...
https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/p ... .154849135

I expect that to be fairly nailed on. Boris can't work with a majority of 1 but if he can hold out until November it will be a matter of … "they stopped me giving you Brexit now give me the majority to get the job done" or "there you go I got you your Brexit even with this very slim majority now give me the majority to make sure I do everything else". Either way it points to post 31/10 … if he can hold out.

[Archangel]

Can he actually hold out until November if there is a vote of no confidence in September, which is almost certain ?

[firlandsfarm]

The problem for the 'no-confidence' vote is that it will need a few Tory rebels (they could just abstain if enough of them) and while they would be prepared to rebel to stop a WTO Brexit I can't see them voting in Corbyn's "Trust me" government. And after losing a no-confidence vote Boris could lay a motion of confidence within 14 days which the rebels could also support to keep themselves in power having used the first vote as a warning to Boris. If you are into politics it's interesting times.

[Archangel]

I still dont really believe Boris and his allies want the crash out no deal option. Its far too risky.
I think the hard line talk is mainly to try to get the EU to budge on the withdrawal agreement, which they arent going to do.
Boris thinks hes Churchill, but he isnt

[firlandsfarm]

Boris thinks hes Churchill, but he isnt

And the EU think they are God which they're not!

[Black Ice]

For those of you into politics...try & get hold of Daniel Hannan's article in last sunday's Sunday Times...best art I've ever read if you are a leaver! Lays out without mincing words how completely hopeless the Maybot was: quote "TM appproached the talks as a supplicant. EU laid down the terms, set the pre-conditions & ordered the protocols." Exactly!! Of course the Remoaners will hate it!! Then again...if you are risk-averse...i don't know what you are doing on here trading...you need to be a risk taker to stand any chance of success!!

[BetBuddy]

I am no constitutional expert but as i understand it, if Boris loses a no confidence vote and refuses to resign, the only person who can remove him is the Queen. Given she is not supposed to get involved in such matters then the only option is a General Election, the earliest date being 7 weeks after the 14 day period for Parliament to try and form a Government. Timing wise that's going to be very tight to get done before 31st October.

However, didn't Ted heath's Labour Government invoke some emergency powers act 12 times between 1970 - 1974 basically shutting down Parliament and all legal objections were thrown out by the High Court or something ?

Not sure if a Prime Minister still has the power to shutdown Parliament and have the Army surround it and prevent it from sitting if a National Crisis is called ? Or is that me wishful thinking.

[Archangel]

Boris thinks hes Churchill, but he isnt

And the EU think they are God which they're not!

In what way?

Both sides negotiated and signed off an agreement. That actually happened, a while back.

If you negotiated with someone in good faith and then they later decided to change their minds, you would be too happy about it.

[ShaunWhite]

And the EU think they are God which they're not!

I'm afraid they very much are 'God' in this one actually, that's the problem.

This is what happens when you try and negotiate with someone more powerful than you and who, like the hard brexiteers, have an ideology that transcends financial considerations. We're a wolf who's left the pack and is now begging to share dinner, that never ends well.

The phrase we'll hear everyday until the GE is "if we don't get a good deal it's their fault not mine". It's like Joe Pasquale vs Tyson Fury, and Pasquale complaining he's being punched.

[ShaunWhite]

if Boris loses a no confidence vote and refuses to resign, the only person who can remove him is the Queen.

2 falls, 2 submissions or a knockout. Ding ding.
Maybe Kendo Nagaski can lend the Queen his mask.