Create a No Lose Trade on Fav and Profit on the Field Guardian Automation Bot
Hi Dallas,
"If your account is registered from Aus then you wont be allowed in-play betting"
I used a Aus Ip address because I was thinking that my bets where place faster by using a locale Ip address.
Currently I am using a Dutch Ip address, but that doesn't make any difference for the log information.
My Betfair and Betangel account is not registrated from Australia.
I am a Dutch Passport holder, living officially in Thailand.
For the registration of both accounts I have used my Thailand home address.
I have to say that I have not verifyed my identity with Betfair yet because I am still in the trial period with Betangel.
But that can't be the reason why this bot is not avoiding a lost on the Fav, istn't it?
Thanks for your reply in advance
"If your account is registered from Aus then you wont be allowed in-play betting"
I used a Aus Ip address because I was thinking that my bets where place faster by using a locale Ip address.
Currently I am using a Dutch Ip address, but that doesn't make any difference for the log information.
My Betfair and Betangel account is not registrated from Australia.
I am a Dutch Passport holder, living officially in Thailand.
For the registration of both accounts I have used my Thailand home address.
I have to say that I have not verifyed my identity with Betfair yet because I am still in the trial period with Betangel.
But that can't be the reason why this bot is not avoiding a lost on the Fav, istn't it?
Thanks for your reply in advance
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cybernet69
I think there is a problem with betfair if you registered your home address as Thailand as betting is illegal there isn't it ?
Regarding address in Thailand
You are right, gambling in Thailand is illegal, but loads of people are doing it.
As long as you don't organize gambling or not being a member of an organisation, online gambling at home is not a big issue.
You can't get access to many well known adult sites, but I have seen the Betfair site in Thai language.
Because of that I want to see Dutch TV programs I normally use a Dutch IP address.
That works fine with betfair as I can proof fromt he betting results a few days ago when I start betting.
Regarding manual betting.
I have done that by switching from Guardian automation to one click betting.
As you see at the screenshot I did a couple of bettings on the Ascot Horse race
No problems with the log or with betfair recording.
I start to understand why I see so little bet records at Betfair account summary.
Since there is no activity at the guardian logs, there is nothing to report.
At the Excel screenshot you see what I copied from the Guardian logs when I was in the practice mode
At that time the logs where showing important detail about a race.
Here is a screenshot taken from a race in PRACTICE MODE Guardin Automation
The logs are given all the available info. This means for me that the settings are OK.
Although it is not very practical, the problem with the logs is not the main problem.
The biggest problem is that I pay for lost bets, while the purpose of the bot is that that not should happen.
If you like we can set up a teamviewer session so that you can see/adjust my settings
You are right, gambling in Thailand is illegal, but loads of people are doing it.
As long as you don't organize gambling or not being a member of an organisation, online gambling at home is not a big issue.
You can't get access to many well known adult sites, but I have seen the Betfair site in Thai language.
Because of that I want to see Dutch TV programs I normally use a Dutch IP address.
That works fine with betfair as I can proof fromt he betting results a few days ago when I start betting.
Regarding manual betting.
I have done that by switching from Guardian automation to one click betting.
As you see at the screenshot I did a couple of bettings on the Ascot Horse race
No problems with the log or with betfair recording.
I start to understand why I see so little bet records at Betfair account summary.
Since there is no activity at the guardian logs, there is nothing to report.
At the Excel screenshot you see what I copied from the Guardian logs when I was in the practice mode
At that time the logs where showing important detail about a race.
Here is a screenshot taken from a race in PRACTICE MODE Guardin Automation
The logs are given all the available info. This means for me that the settings are OK.
Although it is not very practical, the problem with the logs is not the main problem.
The biggest problem is that I pay for lost bets, while the purpose of the bot is that that not should happen.
If you like we can set up a teamviewer session so that you can see/adjust my settings
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Ok so there's no problem with your account being able to place bets from your location.
Can you add approx a dozen the UK/IRE horse racing markets to guardian and apply the rule to them all (dont connect or apply any excel spreadsheets) also ensure your refresh rate is set to at least 200ms. Then after its ran on a few markets post a copy of some of the logs if it has not triggered correctly
Can you add approx a dozen the UK/IRE horse racing markets to guardian and apply the rule to them all (dont connect or apply any excel spreadsheets) also ensure your refresh rate is set to at least 200ms. Then after its ran on a few markets post a copy of some of the logs if it has not triggered correctly
Thanks for your reply.
I followed your instruction.
A change refresh to 200ms and selected the Uk/Irish market.
Next to that I turn off bet confirmation and changed my IP address to UK.
At the first screenshot you see that I have lost with 4 bets €20
I started with €70 and left with €50
Below the logs
screenshot BAGuardian03 Shows a matched lay bet
screenshot BAGuardian05
Shows exactly the same as screenshot BAGuardian03 but here I lost the the lay bet. More at the next post
I followed your instruction.
A change refresh to 200ms and selected the Uk/Irish market.
Next to that I turn off bet confirmation and changed my IP address to UK.
At the first screenshot you see that I have lost with 4 bets €20
I started with €70 and left with €50
Below the logs
screenshot BAGuardian03 Shows a matched lay bet
screenshot BAGuardian05
Shows exactly the same as screenshot BAGuardian03 but here I lost the the lay bet. More at the next post
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screenshot BAGuardian06
Shows 2 matched bets; a lost and a win.
No idea why that is possible?
screenshot BAGuardian07
Shows no unmatched or matched but the betfair results shows a lost.
As a newbee, from the info on the logs, it it hard to understand why I win or lose.
Remarkable is that I lose often on high stakes.
But anyway, the purpose of the bot is not to have a lose.
I wonder why I do have.
I have another question related to this bot.
Is it possible to create a bot that has Back bet on the horse with the least predicted chance to win and a Lay bet on any other horse that win the race?
Shows 2 matched bets; a lost and a win.
No idea why that is possible?
screenshot BAGuardian07
Shows no unmatched or matched but the betfair results shows a lost.
As a newbee, from the info on the logs, it it hard to understand why I win or lose.
Remarkable is that I lose often on high stakes.
But anyway, the purpose of the bot is not to have a lose.
I wonder why I do have.
I have another question related to this bot.
Is it possible to create a bot that has Back bet on the horse with the least predicted chance to win and a Lay bet on any other horse that win the race?
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Ok i think i can see whats going on now.
Look at the update column in guardian your still updating markets just once every second (you should be doing this at least every 200ms (prefereably every 20ms if you have enabled streaming).
At the moment if you have just 50 markets in guardian its taking 50 secs to refresh and update each market one time, the back bet of this rule is only armed for a 5sec window before the off so any more than 5 markets in guardian means the back rule wont get triggered on all markets.
Have a read of this thread for full details and how best to set the rule up and why its so important
http://www.betangel.com/forum/viewtopic ... 37&t=11491
Look at the update column in guardian your still updating markets just once every second (you should be doing this at least every 200ms (prefereably every 20ms if you have enabled streaming).
At the moment if you have just 50 markets in guardian its taking 50 secs to refresh and update each market one time, the back bet of this rule is only armed for a 5sec window before the off so any more than 5 markets in guardian means the back rule wont get triggered on all markets.
Have a read of this thread for full details and how best to set the rule up and why its so important
http://www.betangel.com/forum/viewtopic ... 37&t=11491
Hi Dallas,
AS promissed here I am back with an update after changing refresh to 20ms.
The change showed a big difference.
The logs at the Guardian as wel as Betfair activity result are given adaquate information.
Unfortunately, as you can see at the screenshots are havy.
I started with a balance of €50 and ended with a ballance of €11.
Hier is a screenshot of betfair.com/summary/accountstatement
My comments on the results of the indivudual races start from the first line below.
I will do the double reporting first.
Horse 9, Wobelee
The report shows two reports.
Since I be new here I don't know if this is normal.
Back bet won
Lay bet lost
But I shouldn't have to pay a lost here
Looking above I see for
Horse 4. yourblueyescrying
Horse 1. Pin code same story
Same story as for horse 9 Wobelee.
Further above
Horse 4.Enjoyable
Other way arround
Back bet lost
Lay bet win
But I shouldn't have to pay for the back bet lost.
Looking at the single reports from a race, we see as we start from below
4. Midnight Obsession Back bet lost
1. Fast stryke Lay bet lost
8. Liava Back bet lost
9. Van Mara Back bet won
1. Rockingthe boys back bet lost
6. Express Pass Lay bet lost.
How is it possible that, what ever bets wins, I be charged.
I was thinking that:
a. If the Fav wins the bet is be zero-ed by the bot, I will win nothing
b. If the Fav doesn't win, one of the others horses will win. I will get paid the stake price of the lay bet.
Looking forward to receive your anser/solution.
Thanks a lot in advance.
Note:
I betted on the Australian Market.
Should I have done Uk/Irish market as you advised yesterday?
AS promissed here I am back with an update after changing refresh to 20ms.
The change showed a big difference.
The logs at the Guardian as wel as Betfair activity result are given adaquate information.
Unfortunately, as you can see at the screenshots are havy.
I started with a balance of €50 and ended with a ballance of €11.
Hier is a screenshot of betfair.com/summary/accountstatement
My comments on the results of the indivudual races start from the first line below.
I will do the double reporting first.
Horse 9, Wobelee
The report shows two reports.
Since I be new here I don't know if this is normal.
Back bet won
Lay bet lost
But I shouldn't have to pay a lost here
Looking above I see for
Horse 4. yourblueyescrying
Horse 1. Pin code same story
Same story as for horse 9 Wobelee.
Further above
Horse 4.Enjoyable
Other way arround
Back bet lost
Lay bet win
But I shouldn't have to pay for the back bet lost.
Looking at the single reports from a race, we see as we start from below
4. Midnight Obsession Back bet lost
1. Fast stryke Lay bet lost
8. Liava Back bet lost
9. Van Mara Back bet won
1. Rockingthe boys back bet lost
6. Express Pass Lay bet lost.
How is it possible that, what ever bets wins, I be charged.
I was thinking that:
a. If the Fav wins the bet is be zero-ed by the bot, I will win nothing
b. If the Fav doesn't win, one of the others horses will win. I will get paid the stake price of the lay bet.
Looking forward to receive your anser/solution.
Thanks a lot in advance.
Note:
I betted on the Australian Market.
Should I have done Uk/Irish market as you advised yesterday?
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Yes run it on UK/IRE races and you'll see a world of difference, Aus racing has barely any money traded in-running so the odds will move very differently. Load up a UK race onto a ladder screen then do the same with an Aus race and you'll see just how big the difference is.
There is a few types of Aus races where liquidity is good enough to trade in-running but im not sure which they are as i never bother with any outside the UK.
Hi Dallas,
Thanks again,
Do you have an explanation for the many lost bets I have?
What can be the reason
The bot is created to have a no lose trade.
What do I wrong?
Why do I have here a lose of €24 while my liability is €10.
What will be the influence if I increase my liability to €5
Thanks again for your answers
Thanks again,
Do you have an explanation for the many lost bets I have?
What can be the reason
The bot is created to have a no lose trade.
What do I wrong?
Why do I have here a lose of €24 while my liability is €10.
What will be the influence if I increase my liability to €5
Thanks again for your answers
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Last edited by JePe on Mon Jun 26, 2017 11:13 am, edited 1 time in total.
Both back and lay bets need to be matched to create a no lose trade, so their is never a guarantee it will work every time, but with so little in-running betting on overseas races then a back bet could be matched and unless the horse runs a blinder then its price wont shorten leaving a loss, or vice verse if the back bets in unmatched due to such little activity then the horse belts off the lay gets only and you lose if the horse romps home.
Thanks a lot.
PLease allow me to have to more questions.
Why do I have here a lose of €24 while my liability is €10.
What will be the influence if I decrease my liability to €5
Thanks again for your answers
PLease allow me to have to more questions.
Why do I have here a lose of €24 while my liability is €10.
What will be the influence if I decrease my liability to €5
Thanks again for your answers
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