looking for a profitable staking plan using compounding

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ShaunWhite
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nivi7 wrote:
Mon Sep 02, 2019 9:05 am
thanks for the reply m8,much appreciated

thing is you cant find 40 trades a day
i cant at least,maybe on Saturday and Sunday,but still they re too many


on football at least which i trade,most people do 1 til 6-7 trades per day and aiming for 1 unit profit or more

how can you reach the numbers you said by trading on football with odds around 2.0 with betting 20 gbp?
I didn't say you were betting £20, £20 is your maximum risk, not your stake.

I does depend on which sport you trade. 6 or 7 football trades a day is still about 200 trades per month.

So,
If you Back £250 @ 2.0 and then and Lay £255.10 @ 1.96. That would be a hedged (green) figure of +£5.10.
If the price had gone to 2.04, the lay bet would be for £245.10 and the hedged figure would be -£4.90.
But of course if the price had gone to 1.7 the lay bet would be for £294.12, and the hedged figure would be +£44.12

All of that might happen in the first 20mins...and then you might want to make a 2nd trade on the same match.

Have you done much trading, or have you been straight betting?
Trading is about looking for market moves, not the results.

Eg. You might have a game where the teams are very even, maybe H 2.8, D 2.8, A 2.8
But you know the Home team always starts games on the attack, so after 10mins the score might be 0-0 but the odds are now H 2.5, D 2.9, A 2.9
You can trade that price movement by backing a Home win at 2.8 and Laying it at 10mins @ 2.5


I don't really trade football so other people might have different ideas, but it's the same general idea in all markets.
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ShaunWhite wrote:
Mon Sep 02, 2019 2:47 pm
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thanks for the reply mate
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What other kinds of discussion are you hoping to get mate?

It's pretty unanimous that people know a compound staking plan will not make profit by itself, money management is of course important but you need an 'edge' first before you optimise this with a staking plan of any sort. Shaun, as always, has explained some things very well. I'd genuinely love to see this thread steer somewhere positive and give me a lightbulb moment like so many others do so what direction would you like to steer it?
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nivi7 wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2019 4:04 pm
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Do you have an edge?
In what sport?
What is the average matched volume in the events you trade/ value bet/ insert your strategy here?
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gazuty wrote:
Sat Sep 07, 2019 1:31 am
nivi7 wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2019 4:04 pm
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Do you have an edge?
In what sport?
What is the average matched volume in the events you trade/ value bet/ insert your strategy here?
You'll be lucky to get an answer. ;)
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CallumPerry wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2019 5:07 pm
so what direction would you like to steer it?
personally i d like to learn more staking plans
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You can't make a profit just with a staking plan, it has to be underpinned by an edge/profitable strategy.

Once you have one of those a staking plan may help maximize its potential
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nivi7 wrote:
Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:58 am
personally i d like to learn more staking plans
Trolling aside, are you sure you're actually trying to learn?

Because people have been trying to help you by asking very simple questions, like Gazuty twice already and others, but you keep ignoring their questions. You can only find more "staking plans" on the ladder itself, there's all sorts of clever staking that you can do but on the ladder itself, from the simple concepts of averaging to different stake sizes depending on how close your stakes are to the current price, but it doesn't look like you even use Bet Angel and trading software.

If you really want to learn something it may be more sensible to actually engage in a discussion with someone who offered help or advice, instead of instantly rejecting their opinion just because it's not what you wanted to hear in the first place. Just a thought.
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gazuty wrote:
Sat Sep 07, 2019 1:31 am


Do you have an edge?
In what sport?
What is the average matched volume in the events you trade/ value bet/ insert your strategy here?
i dont want to make this thread personal mate
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Dallas wrote:
Sat Sep 07, 2019 12:07 pm
You can't make a profit just with a staking plan, it has to be underpinned by an edge/profitable strategy.

Once you have one of those a staking plan may help maximize its potential

of course,you have to win those bets to get profits
but i made this thread for staking plans only,like the one i share on OP
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Kai wrote:
Sat Sep 07, 2019 12:12 pm
lly trying to learn?

Because people have been trying to help you by asking very simple questions, like Gazuty twice already and others,
but it doesn't look like you even use Bet Angel and trading software.
cos i didnt want to engage in these conversations
how to make 2.5 units per week?thats easy
just bet on barcelona and juventus and ajax to win and over

no i dont use this software,i dont trade on betfair,its not llowed in my country
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nivi7 wrote:
Sat Sep 07, 2019 12:25 pm
but i made this thread for staking plans only,like the one i share on OP
Let's get one thing straight - you haven't shared anything, you've just told us something that's blindingly obvious that everybody here already knows!
nivi7 wrote:
Sat Sep 07, 2019 12:32 pm
cos i didnt want to engage in these conversations
There's not much point in posting to a forum if you don't want to engage in conversations and it's quite rude just ignoring people offering help, even if it's not exactly what you want.
nivi7 wrote:
Sat Sep 07, 2019 12:32 pm
how to make 2.5 units per week?thats easy
In that case you're home and dry! Just make your 2.5 units a week and the £27K you keep talking about is in the bank. What more do you need?

In the eighty's JPS used to insert half a £10,000 voucher into their cigarette packets, and offer £10,000 to anyone who can find the other half. Obviously one half was in abundance, the other half was extremely rare or didn't exist. You'd get a lot of idiots with half a voucher thinking they were halfway there and trying to sell or buy the other half for £5000.

You seem to have the rare half, in that you can easily make money, but you're desperately searching for the half that everybody has. :?
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nivi7 wrote:
Sat Sep 07, 2019 12:32 pm
how to make 2.5 units per week?thats easy
just bet on barcelona and juventus and ajax to win and over
You've never placed a bet in your life, have you?
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nivi7 wrote:
Sat Sep 07, 2019 12:19 pm
gazuty wrote:
Sat Sep 07, 2019 1:31 am


Do you have an edge?
In what sport?
What is the average matched volume in the events you trade/ value bet/ insert your strategy here?
i dont want to make this thread personal mate
I wouldn't like to meet you at a party, if you find being asked what sport you're interested in too personal. :lol:
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